Dangers of Visalus Ingredients


***UPDATE 5/20/2014***

Since spam bots are loving the high number of comments on this popular article (and I still moderate every single comment on this site), I’m shutting down the comments on this post. You are always welcome to message me through my Contact page if you’d like to comment to me directly!

*** UPDATE 2/4/2014***

Nearly two years after writing this original article, I am shocked at how ignorant people still are about the toxic ingredients they are ingesting every single day with “quick fix” shakes like Visalus. Not only do I stand by my original research, I write this update to point out that we have even more evidence now that artificial sweeteners are toxic and harmful and to share the links of other health bloggers and professionals who are spreading the truth on the dangers of Visalus (and other compromised protein supplements). I now realize that my original concerns with Visalus was just scratching the surface of this inferior product who preaches about changing lives for the better…laughing all the way to the bank.  Now we know that Visalus is also giving us a toxic dose of growth hormones, antibiotics, and quite possibly heavy metals! Visalus — the toxic and damaging gift that just keeps on giving!

I will also update that I’m no longer using Vega (despite being accused of selling it! I guess the Visalus lovers needed to find something on me…even if it was an outright lie!). That said, I stopped using Vega because I am now committed to using 100% organic products in my daily diet (I now use Tera’s Whey organic grass-fed whey protein). I know that not everyone can follow a 100% organic, local, and hormone-free diet but every step in that direction will greatly impact your health for the better and eating real food will always  be better than a processed shake. Period.



I can’t begin to tell you how many times I’ve been asked for my opinion on Visalus “Body by Vi Challenge” weight loss products.  Despite my strong recommendation to avoid these well-marketed “health” products with countless questionable ingredients, I’ve had quite a few friends and family try them anyway. And without fail, every one of them has eventually stopped because of adverse health effects.  A constant head ache (even a migraine for some) being the number one complaint.

Put it this way, if you’re an average North American with an average North American diet (full of processed food, chemicals and man-made additives), than you could probably benefit from replacing some of that garbage with Visalus. The company has such great “testimonials” because their target market are overweight, unhealthy people who eat highly refined and processed “foods” on a daily basis. By switching to a lower-calorie shake (albeit still highly refined and processed), they are bound to lose weight. This is not rocket science, people. As I explained in my blog post about the 3 Stages to Successful Weight Loss, the first step in effective weight loss follows the adage of “a calorie is a calorie is a calorie”: Reduce Calories. Lose Weight.

But if you don’t eat the typical North American diet, then to suddenly add a daily dose of garbage ingredients like what’s inside Visalus would actually set you BACK, not take you forward.

So a few things I’ve come across in my Visalus research:

Isn’t it alarming that the entire web page Visalus has designed for “Visalus Ingredients” doesn’t actually even list the ingredients?!?! SKETCH!

Don’t you also find it kind of funny that the spokeswoman they use for all their psuedo-scientific mumbo-jumbo videos (which totally skirt the issue of what’s actually inside the Visalus products) is overweight herself?!  Don’t get me wrong, I definitely don’t believe in having super skinny models claiming to use a product that they don’t in fact use, but I also think that you should buy products that produce results worth emulating!  Check out Vega’s Ambassadors to see examples of healthy and fit people of all ages (not just skinnier “after” models) who believe in, and use, Vega’s products.

Okay, enough of the straight-up common sense issues — what about the actual ingredients? Well I could write a book on all the cheap and dangerous ingredients Visalus is using but for now, I’ll just give you my top 3 reasons to avoid these products based on this ingredient list I found online:

Visalus Ingredients: Protein Blend of (Soy Protein Isolate, Whey Protein Hydrolysate, and Whey Protein Concentrate), Digestive Resistant Maltodextrin (Fibersol™), High Oleic Sunflower Oil, Natural and Artificial Flavor, MCT Oil, Maltodextrin, Gum Acacia, Xanthan, Sodium Caseinate, Lecithin, Aminogen™, Mono & Diglycerides, DiPotassium Phosphate, Sucralose

Domestica’s Top 3 Dangerous Visalus Ingredients:

Fats are good for you — and especially when you’re trying to lose weight. But not all fats are created equal. A healthy fat will contain a proper ratio of omega 3 and 6 fatty acids. Vegetable oils, however, have an improper ratio, creating an omega 3 deficiency. It’s safe to say that a proper intake of omega 3 is beneficial in many ways, even being linked to protecting us against cancer.  But a high intake of omega 6’s, on the other hand, has been proven to promote the pathogenesis of many diseases, including cardiovascular disease, cancer, and inflammatory and autoimmune diseases¹.  But again, these types of vegetable oils are in abundance and cheap, cheap, cheap to use. Companies using them are after one thing, MORE PROFITS. Not your health.

First off, whenever you see “artificial flavors” or “natural flavors”, you can bet there’s a good chance it contains MSG.  In fact, more than 40 different ingredients contain the chemical in monosodium glutamate (processed free glutamic acid)² that can lead to common side effects such as migraine headaches, upset stomach, fuzzy thinking, diarrhea, heart irregularities, asthma, and/or mood swings.

“Natural” absolutely does NOT equal “healthy”.  Remember, arsenic and hydrochloric acid are “natural”, too!

It was a toss-up on which to include as my third most dangerous Visalus ingredient.  I could lecture you for an hour on the negative effects of maltodextrin (the cheapest corn-based sweetener you can get) or whatever the heck “digestive resistant” means (I’m guessing it’s similar to that gross YouTube video where the Ramen noodles take something like 8 hours to digest…) but I have to come back to my old faithful — artificial sweeteners like Aspartame and Visalus’ poison of choice, Sucralose/Splenda.

I don’t ask people to change everything all at once when they decide to get healthy. In fact, I recommend starting very slowly and with only one thing at a time. But when it comes to toxic and addictive additives like Splenda and Aspartame, I demand quitting so cold-turkey that you might call it frozen-solid-turkey. I want you to quit that crap, yesterday.

So help me, if I have to hear one more person tell me that they just can’t give up their Diet Coke while they complain about how they can never lose weight or feel crappy and moody all the time, I’m going to lose it!  Artificial, man-made sweeteners are TOXIC. And they are going to keep poisoning you until your very existence becomes nothing more than a constant brain fog that revolves around your next “hit” and when you last changed your panty liner since you can’t hold your urine anymore. Every time you drown your liver with these completely foreign and toxic additives, you are poisoning your own organs.  How can you go run or workout for half an hour trying to get healthy and then poison yourself from the inside out?! Nonsensical, people! It’s nonsensical!!

Sucralose, which is also marketed under the name “Splenda”, is a chlorocarbon, in the same chemical compound family as deadly pesticides like DDT, insecticides, biocides, disinfectants like Chlorox Bleach, and WWI poison gas like dichlorourea.  It’s very claim to fame is that it can be zero-calorie because your digestive tract doesn’t know what the heck to do with it and so it just passes right on through and leaves via urine and/or feces.³

Yeah, that sounds….totally A-OK. If I was a simple-minded five-year-old!

WAKE UP PEOPLE! What part of our digestive tract not recognizing the “food” you just ingested sounds healthy to you?!

Now that we’ve got that out of the way, I do agree that a nutritious shake in the morning is a good idea and next up, I’ll give you my own weight loss shake recommendation, including a Domestica-approved (and not endorsed in any way!) supplement product.  

Domestically Yours,
Natasha Kay

Domestica_avatarNatasha Drisdelle (aka Domestica) is a mom of twins, baby-weight survivor, and health & fitness 
blogger who lives in California’s Silicon Valley. She posted her before-and-after pics on the immortal 
internet as living proof that morphing into a gelatinous baby-growing-factory doesn’t have to mean your 
bikini days are over. 

You can find her on Google+, Facebook and Twitter, cutting through the myths and lies that keep 
women from realizing true health and contentment.
¹ The importance of the ratio of omega-6/omega-3 essential fatty acids. The Center for Genetics, Nutrition and Health, Washington, DC 20009, USA.
² Names of ingredients that contain processed free glutamic acid (MSG). TruthInLabeling.org
³ The Bitter Truth About Splenda. GreenMedInfo.com

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459 thoughts on “Dangers of Visalus Ingredients

  1. Amanda says:

    Wow This was very informative and scary. I thought sunflower oil was good for us and better than soybean oil. I didn’t realize how bad all the ingredients really are. What about Truvia or Stevia? I love your blogs, they are full of great information and are so encouraging.

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Truvia is considered stevia…but sadly, it’s just another example of a Big Food company (Coca Cola!), getting their hands in the “healthy foods” cookie jar, so to speak. Not all stevia products are created equal and Truvia is an example of a cheaply made (and heavily refined) stevia product that’s more filler than natural stevia. In fact, it’s made of rebiana, erythritol, and natural flavors…rebiana being the stevia plant, the other two ingredients being…??? Bad.

      But 100% stevia is healthy (so far as we know!).

      I would say you’re probably right that sunflower oil is better than soybean oil but it’s a case of “the lesser of two evils”. I stick with grapeseed, avocado, coconut, and olive oils.

      Thanks for the comment!

      • Carolyn says:

        TRUVIA is not a coca cola product. They use it… just like every company uses an ingredient from suppliers. Geez it drives me crazy when people pretend to be so knowledgeable and really have no idea what they are talking about

        • Carolyn says:

          And do your research. You cannot buy stevia in a packet ANYWHERE by ANYONE. Its too sweet to be used by a consumer by itself. You have to have a filler (maltodextrin, erythritol, dextrin, etc)- … Rebiana is the purest part of the stevia leaf- still 100% stevia. Food manufacturers using TRUVIA do not use fillers. And Truvia was first on the market… Again, you have no idea what you’re talking about.

          • Natasha (Domestica) says:

            Carolyn — what research have you done? It’s a pretty widely-known fact that Truvia is jointly owned by Coca-Cola and Cargill (a privately-owned company known for their sketchy business practices and human right violations). For the record, you can read more about that at Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erythritol.

            I’d be happy to see your sources if you have other information that we don’t.

            And no, you are 100% WRONG that you can’t buy straight stevia. I have it in my cupboard right now! Trader Joe’s carries one and so does Whole Foods, just to name a few. So, actually, sounds like you need to do your research!

            Yes, rebiana is the “purest” part of the stevia leaf, but Truvia is actually FIRST erythritol and THEN Reb A (rebiana). So it’s anything but “pure”! They would rather spend pennies on cheap-ass man-made concoctions than spend more on quality stevia. End of story. If you think otherwise, you’re just another duped consumer who is lining the pockets of big business.

            Erythritol is a man-made chemical concoction with a main selling feature being that it’s largely unrecognizable to the digestive tract and is partially “excreted in the urine and feces”. Well, that sounds nice to the dieter who is trying to cut calories but it’s not so nice for that person’s LIVER who has to process a completely foreign chemical cocktail before getting it out in “the urine and feces”.

            If you think it’s okay to ingest chemical concoctions, you’re on the wrong blog, my dear!

          • Barbara says:

            Again, quit being a BULLY…its not necessary to jump down someone’s throat because they don’t have the perfect data…Chezze Woman, act like you got some.

          • Kat Johns says:

            Wow, sorry but you really don’t know your stuff! You really need to do more Extensive research on stevia before you speak!!! Natasha has got her knowledge “ON TARGET”!!!!

          • Judie says:

            Truvia is a stevia -based sugar substitute developed jointly by The Coca-Cola Company and Cargill maybe u should do the same.

          • Mandi says:

            “You cannot buy stevia in a packet ANYWHERE by ANYONE.” – Huh.. That’s weird. I guess the packets of stevia I just bought, from my local health food store, are imaginary? I don’t know about everywhere else, but here in Canada.. I can buy stevia in bulk, by the packet, or by the drop. (I don’t much like the flavor though. It tastes like splenda.)

        • Isabelle says:

          Moi ma chère Carolyn, je t’appuie à 100%!! Dieu que les gens se prennent pour des pros!! Bravo Mme Natasha pour votre expertise si élaboré!! 😦 Faîtes vous des analyse de sang vivant vous?? Ma mère est suivi par une naturopathe qui fait aussi des lectures de sang vivant et son sang va de mieux en mieux depuis quel utilise ces produits!! Lorsque son sans se gâche c’est quand elle mange mal!! Elle fait une Atrophie Cérébelleuse causé par les médicaments et son état va très bien avec ces produits!!Les maux de tête voir migraines!!! Vous auriez dû payer plus cher d’Université pour qu’ils n’omettent pas de vous dire que lorsque le corps se détoxifie, nous pouvons avoir des maux de tête et des dérèglements intestinaux!! C’est comme sur l’autre site de râlage inutile que j’ai lu juste avant!! Elle se prend pour une pro mais ne se nomme même pas!!! Vous ne savez même pas lire le sang et voir qu’il n’y a plus d’inflammation avec l’utilisation de ces produits, par contre, le lait de vache lui cause une grande inflammation!! Vos clientes vous ont-t-elles tout dit!!! La plupart des gens ne vous raconte pas quelle merde ils font à leurs corps mais aime bien mettre la faute sur un produit en particulier!! Quand vous me direz que vous faîtes des analyses de sang incluant celles de sang vivant et que vous saurez me dire quel désastres exactes( et non seulement les effets secondaires bidon que les médecins veulent bien nous dirent) nous donnent les médicaments pharmaceutiques, les McDo, les légumes au supermarché, la viandes en vente au comptoir et toutes la merde qui se présente dans une épicerie alors vous pourrez juger d’un produit qui n’est peut-être pas parfait mais qui est très bon sur le corps et la santé et ce pour la vie car vous dîtes des choses sans avoir vu ce qui en aient en réalité!! Je vais dire comme d’autres si vous n’avez rien d’autres à faire, allez donc aider les gens au lieu de taper des conneries sur internet sans résultats véritables pour vous prononcer!!!


          • Isabelle says:

            I know this conversation is in English and I commented in French but those who are really interested, take the time to translate it! 🙂

      • Beth Elsey says:

        I have a friend who is promoting Visalus as a help for chronic pain, as well as weight loss. It seems strange to me that a shake-inventor could conquer chronic pain when scientitic study has not been been successful in that realm (for me). Also, I’ve had estrogen-receptive breast cancer and stay far away from soy-based products, even tofu. I would love to get the weight loss and chronic pain relief that she says she has had. I’ve been hesitant to order Vi-Shakes, but your blog has made up my mind

        • Jessica says:

          This blog is directed towards anything and everything negative about visalus. I encourage you to do more research that isn’t based off an uneducated individual who decided to write a blog. The molecular structure of sucralose is almost completely identical to that of a sugar molecule. It has been proven to not have ba side effects. Visalus has been wonderful for me I have lost almost 50 lbs. and I can actually run around with my 4 girls. If you have 10 lbs to lose then exercise, but if you are overweight or obese to the point of health problems or are in danger of health problems in the future consider Visalus. The benefits of losing the weight I would say is definitely greater than that of continuing an unhealthy lifestyle or weight. I have my life back and I don’t have to stay on Visalus now unless I want to lose more. I eat like a normal human ice cream and cake too lol just not everyday. If you are seriously against Visalus I can tell you that limiting sugars is the best way to lose weight and no I’m not diabetic. It’s the ONLY way I’ve lost my weight. Think about it and don’t read blogs that are completely one sided and if you do go find 2 that are for Visalus and not against. “The most ignorant of people are those who never search for the other side.”

          • Beth says:

            I’m happy to hear of your success, Jessica, but my concern is related to the soy protein in Visalis. Estrogen-receptive cancer patients are advised to stay away from soy, as it can act as a precursor to estrogen. Being overweight can also contribute to estrogen levels, as body fat. Also I asked about my friend’s claim that it reduces chronic pain. I’ve read over some of the ingredients and see nothing that could help with chronic pain. Maybe she feels better because she’s lost weight, but she wasn’t obese to start with. I’d like to get some info from this forum regarding chronic pain reduction with Visalis, pro or con. The info I’ve found so far sounds mostly like educated people trying to find answers. As for sweeteners, I would like a supplement that uses stevia.

          • mtblantonjr says:

            Beth, I wanna applaud u for asking questions and looking for the truth without relying solely on this blog. I would like to invite u to check out a forum of over 25,000 Challengers (a lot of which are customers only and are not paid) that post results and ask questions of one another. If u are on Facebook, search for “Because of ViSalus” and join that group. There are others on there with the same concerns and that have had awesome results with no health issues. Several are cancer survivors that have checked with their drs and have their blessing also. The soy protein in our products are Non-GMO with the isoflavones/phytoestrogens removed. I’d be glad to send u more info on that also thru FB if u wanna add me at Facebook . com/mtblantonjr (without the spaces). Again, congrats for doing ur homework 🙂

          • Rahel says:

            I agree don’t go by what’s on a silly blog. Listen to real people who have done this I know a 74 year old that has been on this product for more that 5 years or so and his doctors say hes getting back to normal health. So this person apparently don’t know if my doctor approves of this and my pain management approves then I say I am going for it Im waiting for my next month to come in. LOVE THIS PRODUCT. there is nothing wrong with it.

          • jody says:

            Dr’s in my town are recommending Visalus-and I too have a son who is on CHEMO and doing GREAT on Visalus

          • Allison Morris says:

            Beth, all of the nutritional information concerning all of the Visalus products is public. The concern you have expressed about soy was a huge concern of mine as well. I have both reproductive and thyroid issues that prevented me from trying it for several months. My friend who introduced me to Vi knew that I didn’t need to be concerned, but she couldn’t articulate why. (Not surprising since she is not a doctor specializing in food or its production.) I got an opportunity to go to a Q & A session with the doctors who develop the products and heard their explanation. Like my friend, I now know that we don’t have to worry about it. I wish I had the words to explain it to you and others, but I don’t. Basically they have removed the part of the soy that causes the body to trigger estrogen production. The more memorable part of the explanation is that if did not remove the estrogen triggers, there would be a lot of men walking around with huge boobs.

            Concerning the ingredients that help with chronic pain. The medical community has no answer for this. They don’t know what it is that we can “take” to relieve chronic pain. If they did, no one would be in pain. As we know, there is no easy answer for anyone or everyone. Why do the Visalus products work? Perhaps the doctors can explain it to more to your satisfaction. Again, I can’t explain it, I just know it has helped me and many many others! The way my friend explains it- we are getting nutrients from these products that we don’t get from other food sources.

            The type of sweeteners varies in the products. Some use stevia and some use sucralose- aka Splenda. The Shake uses sucralose and there less than one gram of “sugar” per serving. To give you an idea of how much that would be, there are 10 grams in one teaspoon. So, less than 1/10th of a teaspoon per serving. The cereal Crunch has 3 grams of stevia in 3/4 ths of a cup or one serving.

            I hope you are able to make a somewhat more informed decision since Natasha didn’t actually research the products that she claims to. Well, claimed to. In one of the responses she admits that she took about 10 minutes to put the article together. The link she sites actually goes to an independent distributor versus the company that produces it. Ironically, she had been on the official site and has a link to it before her “ingredients” site. It angers me that instead of taking the time to correct the information or remove the article, she has left the bogus research on the web for nearly 2 years. Hundreds if not thousands of people have read her blog, believing her. Believing her “research”. I would have too if I had not had some background information to begin with.

            Please feel free to reach me in the future at my Vi site. http://allisonlmorris.bodybyvi.com/ I will be happy to put you in contact with people who have far more facts.

            Most Sincerely,
            Alli Morris

          • Natasha (Domestica) says:

            I stand by all the research in my original article. This is not rocket science! In fact, we have even MORE evidence now than when I wrote this that artificial sweeteners are toxic and harmful (http://www.naturalnews.com/040325_Splenda_diabetes_artificial_sweeteners.html). I will also point out that there are many health bloggers, much smarter and more “credentialed” than me, who have spelled out the dangers of Visalus (and other quick-fix shakes and supplements). You can start by seeing Food Babe’s latest chart on the dangers of Visalus here: http://foodbabe.com/2013/02/22/investigating-protein-powders-sun-warrior-giveaway-900-value/. She touches on some things that are even more damaging than my original beef with Visalus like growth hormones, antibiotics, and quite possibly heavy metals! Visalus — the toxic and damaging gift that just keeps on giving!

        • Natasha (Domestica) says:

          Thanks for the comment Beth and yes, I think you’re smart to do your own research, especially with your compromised health situation. You are also correct that the research is clear that processed soy is dangerous and even more for estrogen-receptive cancers.

          Where is your chronic pain? Perhaps you can message me (use my contact page and it will email me offline). I have some suggestions for chronic pain but I would need to learn more about you first.

          I would say that your friend probably experienced a reduction in her chronic pain because of the weight loss but mostly due to a reduction in cellular inflammation. Most people eating a standard American diet are severely inflamed at the cellular level. But even certain “healthy” foods can lead to inflammation in some people with sensitivities so it can be tricky to nail down exactly which foods are causing the inflammation. If your friend reduced her standard american diet by replacing it with visalus and healthier foods, it would inevitably reduce some of that cellular inflammation.

          • Marion says:

            According to research available on line, Donald Rumsfeld was CEO of a pharmaceutical company that invented Aspartame. The license or actual product was to be sold but the buyers would only agree to pay if it was passed by the FDA.. The FDA Director was bullied to pass it but refused without appropriate tests. The Director was removed and Rumsfeld’s own man given the job. Aspartame was immediatly passed without proper testing and marketed.around the world by the new owners. I had a stroke 6 years ago and later discovered aspartame is now known to cause strokes and brain problems. I used it for a long time to avoid sugar….. There’s your answer to aspartame. Evil like Big Pharma who keep us sick deliberately.

          • Althea says:

            MTBLANTONJR and NATASHA, I would love to talk with both of you. I am very overweight, dealing with chronic pain among other things… I have been thinking about using Visalus but have such mixed feelings.

          • Natasha (Domestica) says:

            I would recommend you look into Precision Nutrition — they have a Lean Eating Coaching program which has helped thousands of people lose weight and reclaim their lives and it’s inexpensive compared to Visalus shakes.

          • tracy says:

            Food babe is NOT the most amazing source of info. I can tell you for certain the the “beef claims” because of Whey in the shakes is a non-issue. Our whey comes from over in Europe where its ILLEGAL to pump cows full of hormones and such. We are getting such a pure form of whey compared to anything in the US. But since people just see WHEY and freak out because of miss information on the internet. Do the research, contact the doctors, the scientific advisory board… and if its not for you fine… but I can guarantee you that ViSalus is doing more to combat obesity and lead people to the point of where they can make healthy decisions and lifestyle choices because they WANT to, then any other company out there.

          • Heather says:

            I just read all the info. on the sights you gave above and it is right there in bold letters about how bad and dangerous the Visalus shakes are! Some people don’t want to listen and just want a fast and I don’t know if it is cheap way of losing weight! They don’t want to take care of there bodies and don’t want to take something that is natural or spend the money on it because they might think it is to pricey even though it is worth it and you will be healthier and live longer! But in the long run when they keep taking what they are taking for losing weight and they have side effects and health issues and end up in the hospital then they will understand what you are talking about and that you are trying to help keep people safe and healthy naturally! The best way there is! So I definitely wont be trying the Visalus shakes and I will definitely will try the Tera’s and also maybe the Sun Warrior I read about in the other article you gave the info about it! Have you tried the Sun Warrior yet Natasha? If you did how do you like it and how did it help you? Because it is kind of pricey and do you know if I can get it at the health store please? Also don’t listen or waste your time on all the negative people and comments! I know I wont if I get any! So if there is any one with negative comments to me please don’t waste your time! Because I wont waste mine on you! Take care and I hope to, here from you soon Natasha! Also I just wanted to say one more thing. I bet if people tried the natural Tera’s or Sun Warrior and they also tried the Visalus shakes! I bet they would notice a big difference with the natural one and be a lot more healthy and lose weight the natural way! They probably appreciate you and all the info you gave them!





        • Isabelle says:

          My dear! You put your life in the hands of someone you do not even know! The notice of Natasha appartirnt to her! It destroys a product for his back! Many people I know, including myself and my husband had migraines repeatedly and I can assure you all have nothing! But it’s up to you to know who you want to trust! Good for you!

          • Marion says:

            Visalus is helping hundreds of thousands of people and, yes, loss of weight will reduce or cure many, many, ailments. Several people mention migraine or headaches. This is caused by not drinking enough fluid. Older people are not good at drinking water (and it should always been fluoride free bottled water) so they must have enough fluids otherwise constipation might occur. Also, it’s imperative that you eat fresh vegetables every day and eat fruit. (Not cartons of sugar loaded orange juice and other processed fruit drinks or sodas.) The medical benefits of Visalus are well documented by physicians, many of whom actively promote the product. In the UK it is less sweet and has been passed by The National Institute of Clinical Excellence NICE, our most prestigious health and medical approval board. Visalus is 99.99% good. It’s non GMO and all the organic herbs are grown for Vi by Amway. Go for it.

        • Adam says:

          My wife and I just started drinking visalus. Yes my ankle pain did go away and yes it did taste great. It also gave me a lot of energy and filled me up. I also had a minor headache after drinking it. I have about 100 friends who take it and they all have lost weight and look and feel great. If you really want to go around worrying so much about this product then don’t eat chicken, beef, milk, drive a car, go to the movie theater, fly a plane, eat vitamin c, drink alcoholor ride a bike cause a lot more people have died from all of those things. Just live and have fun. Your all right about some aspects of your debate. If anyone really wants to know the truth about Visalus call me and ill be more than happy to talk about its pro’s and cons, and if any of my friends die or get cancer this week ill write about it for you.

        • Nan says:

          I also had ER/PR positive breast cancer and am to stay away from soy protein isolate – and other soy products – I read ingredients on most everything I eat and have been completely blown away how much they hide SOY in food. Steevia the only way to use it is in the leaf or liquid form because the more refined Steevia is the more it is like using Equal or Splenda and I won’t use either one of those. I also have chronic pain but hearing all of the hype about what Body by Vi I knew the old story if it SOUNDS too good to be true it probably is not as good as you think it is … I shop mostly the outer area of my grocery store and eat mostly vegetables that are known as SUPER FOODS… I love this blog and appreciate all of the information.

          • Tammy Brown says:

            I started the v shakes was doing great, then I was diagnosis with breast cancer. Nobody in my family had breast cancer. I am positive estrogen and progesterone, have to stay away from soy products. any recommendations?

          • Natasha (Domestica) says:

            My aunt defeated her breast cancer (actually, she annihilated it) by going to a completely plant-based diet and bringing her weight down to a healthy BMI. I don’t recommend vegan diets often, if ever, but in the event of cancer, I think a plant-based diet is the way to go. If you must have a protein shake, I’d look for vegan ones that have few ingredients.

          • Diane says:

            Hi Tammy, I to have to stay away from Soy (I’m allergic) and yes manufacturer’s hide soy in EVERYTHING. I’ve come across a new supplement company and have been on them since Sept 2013. I feel better now than I have in years. There is absolutely no crap in these. No soy, gluten, lactose, artificial colors, artificial sweetners. Program comes with an eating plan. Awesome stuff. Here’s the website http://www.306090nutrition.com. Oh, and it’s 100% vegan.

        • Allison says:

          I would say to do your own research. Yes, ViSalus does have soy, but the isoflavens (sorry if that is the wrong part) has been removed so that the “estrogen” is not an issue. The shakes and the cereal are gluten free. The cereal has 3 grams of sugar- stevia based. The shake has less than one gram of sugar and it does come from sucralose. You would have to drink THOUSANDS of the shakes in one day to reach even the minimum level of sucralose in your body for there to even get a warning dosage. They only suggest around 104 shakes a year. Why was stevia not used in the shakes? During the shakes development, stevia had not been a viable option for a few reasons. If you want more info there really is plenty available through the company.

          Reality is that yes, the ViSalus products are highly processed. Should someone be claiming that the products have “cured” them of some disease or disorder? NO! The company does not make these claims. Do they have a lot of people getting healthier because of ViSalus? Without a doubt! Why does it work? Because people are cutting out a lot of crap they are putting into their bodies. Is the system perfect? Absolutely not, but it is far healthier than what most are doing or can afford to do currently. I tried for months to eat organically as much as possible. I bought quality food but it was expensive and I ended eating a lot of other, less healthy options to help fill on the gaps in my meals. I could not afford to make ends meet.

          My Visalus testimony is that I can sleep and I wake up refreshed. I have had fewer migraines. I have lost 5 pounds in about 2 weeks. I no longer crave the crap I used to. I am full and have energy. I didn’t sleep through the night until I was 7. Even them I fought it. I have nightmares and toss and turn. Now, for the first time in my life I am sleeping and waking up and able to function. I am happier. I don’t have food cravings like I used to. Thanks for the 12 grams of protein and 5 grams of fiber that keep me going for hours on end.

          • Natasha (Domestica) says:

            I don’t buy into the “under the approved amount” for Splenda. Approved by whom? The FDA? Who has NO longterm studies of the effects of artificial sweeteners? And not ONE human study?! Not exactly the most credible source to be trusting with your life.

            As for eating organic, sounds like you weren’t doing it quite right. One should never be starving just because they’re eating healthy. There are plenty of ways to eat organic/natural foods without breaking the bank but it takes practice. It can take time to develop the budget-friendly habits when you’re trying something completely new. This is why I don’t recommend that people try to change everything at once. Instead, I suggest adding one or two new habits at a time…and then keep progressing over the weeks/months.

            I hope Visalus continues to work for you — but sadly, I’ve heard from MANY people who had similar great results for the first few months and then suddenly they found themselves in chronic pain and discomfort.

          • Marcus says:

            I came across this article again. It’s been awhile.

            I used to be a Vi Distributor. I did a 90 Day Challenge. I lost 25 lbs and got down to 196 Lbs. The problem with the rapid weight loss, You could see my rib cages in a bad way. I didn’t even have to suck in my belly. So, I stopped drinking the shakes myself and boom. I gained all of the weight back plus some more. My body had starved itself drinking 2 shakes a day with only having close to 140 cals for the shake and that was after I had added stuff to my shakes. With Shakeology, I was already at 140 cals with just the mix and water. I added more stuff to bring the cals up.

            Here’s the thing. You mentioned that that the Isoflavens have been removed. Do you know this for a fact? I called the company asking questions for a customer who is very smart in Chemistry I might add. The company said that the Isoflavins are removed with water osmosis. Ok. I thought to myself, cool. Then I did further digging into stuff and found out that the true way to rid the soy from the isoflavins is through fermentation of alcohol. I found that interested and told my customer. He said “Bingo!” Whether I am right or wrong. Whether you are right or wrong. There are too many unknowns with the ingredients of the shake mix. Yeah, it tastes like cake. I just think every ingredient that Natasha posted is worth looking into, don’t you? It’s your health and life to invest in.

            When I found out for myself the hidden dangers, I stopped being a distributor. I left the company. I didn’t feel like I was being honest to the customers so I quit. Also, I quit drinking them all together. I was lucky to get ride of the unused bags I had left at the time.

            By the way, Stevia is used in shakes like Beachbody’s Shakeology mix. They used to have sucralose in them when I started to drink those shakes and recovery drink. However, they discovered the dangers of sucralose and removed it completely out of the shakes and drink. Does that mean Beachbody wanted to make more money because they put Stevia in their products? No. That company alone makes a lot of its money selling workout programs that are very good programs. They removed the sucralose from the products because they care about their customers’ health.

            You still have to eat healthy. Whether you are drinking a Vi shake, Shakeology, or some other product, you should at some point phase it out as a meal and maybe have it once in a while because eating healthy and clean and exercise is the key.

            I am glad you have gotten good results with what you have been doing. I will tell you from personal experience, once you stop drinking the shakes and haven’t changed your eating habits, the weight will pile back on. I am not the only one that this has happen to. I know of others.

            I thought I would share my thoughts with you. You can agree or disagree with me, but it’s just something to think about. I do wish you health and success.

        • Renee says:

          Hey Beth. A blog is only as good as the payment received for it 🙂 I learned that myself when I researched Vi ingredients before I decided to use them. I’m a psychology major amd overanalyze everything before considering it!! The non-GMO soy that is used in the shake has been filtered to remove the phyto-estrogen component and leave the pure protein in tack. This makes it safe for females with certain types of cancers to use it (as it removes the estrogen piece), and several people battling chemotherapy, that I know, have had great success with the shake. And, to offer that I am not a fan of sucralose, but the toxic reports coming out are not an apples to apples comparison of the teeny tiny amount in the shake (.ooo14%) which is so small, you’d need a microscope with a high powered lense to see it vs. the crazy amount of it given to the lab rats. You would have to drink 100 ViShakes every single day to have an apples to apples comparison of the peer-reviewed lab results. I will add that I eat real food, organic and non-GMO every single day and drink 1 to 2 ViShakes most days to give my nutrition a boost! I enjoy adding large handfuls of organic spinach and fruits, as well as ground flax seed to get even more Omega’s and vitamins. I have amazing energy everyday now, as I suffer from low iron, and my hair and nails are much healthier. People, like this blogger, who are very passionate about clean eating, organic, raw, whole food/real food…are not fans of supplements of any kind…and for those that are not as strict and disciplined with diet, ViSalus is a perfectly acceptable way to go…in my Opinion :). The overall health benefits of the shake far outweighs the Miniscule tidbits of artificial ingredients, like a sweetener or flavor….that you come in contact with every single time you eat away from your home. I hope you find something that works for you 🙂

      • Heather says:

        Thank you so much for your article Natasha! I really appreciate it! Also I was looking into the Visalus shakes because of some one who I know who looks really beautiful and she loss weight and is very thin. I always like to do research and make sure what I put into my body is one hundred percent natural and has no side effects! That could harm or damage my body! Also the Aspartame sweeter is very bad for people and can also make you go blind! My friend who knows about natural ways to keep healthy and cure the body naturally sent me information on it! Also I told a job about it and showed them the info. in the past I worked for and they stopped using it! Also any kind of vegetable oil is very bad for people except for the ones you use! I went to a Expo when I used to live in S.F. and I watched a whole film about it and they even put the hand of a poor Gorilla in it! It was horrible and horrific! Any vegetable oils that say the palm is not a plant they are talking about the palm of the poor animal! You even have to be careful of some of the health store ones. Unless it is the palm of a plant! Also it has terrible unnatural ingredients in the vegetable oils too! Also thank you so much about telling everyone about Tera’s Whey organic grass -fed whey protein! Can you get it from a health food store? Is is very expensive and how much do you take? How do you take it? Does it taste good? Do you still eat regular food with it? Also did you exercise when you took it too and if you did do you still do it? Because I have to be honest I don’t like to exercise and I have to be careful because I have a bad back! Also I want to lose weight fast of course and naturally! You look beautiful and healthy by the way! Take care and hope to here from you soon!



    • Lorene says:

      I recently went to a good health food store in Chicago and Truvia is not pure Stevia so purchase just Stevia.

    • Marion says:

      There’s nothing scary about Vi products. They have been passed by the National Institute for Clinical Excellence in the UK. Do your own research. Sucralose has replaced refined sugar, the cause of most American medical problems. The article does not offer an alternative sweetener that is harmless. If you drink Cola or other sodas, they are loaded with Aspartame – a highly dangerous sweetener as well as sucralose. Headaches are caused by not drinking enough fluids and not having a proper meal with fresh vegetables. Vi is not a miracle cure for anything on it’s own. You have to play your part sensibly. 500,000,000 shakes have been served and have changed hundreds of thousands of lives. Don’t just listen to sad naysayers. Ask the people. Look at the testimonials on YouTube. Unlike most of the others, Vi is non GMO, organic. All it’s herbs are organically grown for them by Amway. Living in America, where food is interfered with, you should grab the chance of anything non GMO. Your right to grow organic food has been taken away from you by Monsanto’s orders. Vi is boosting so many immune systems that horrible illnesses are fading away and thousands of people are now medication free. Go for it and do it right. Drink enough and eat at least one healthy meal a day. You will love the results. I’m so happy that something this good is now in the UK. It’s not 100% perfect but if you need it, then neither are you .

      • Stephen Senna says:

        1-2 persons helped per 500 people scammed….. if you do the math… my biggest concern is that the first poster child and champion for VI (James Cordova) died of cancer after doing these 90 day challenges.. the stuff killed him!! cancer!! why anyone ingests this garbage in them is beyond me… but thank you for that statistic 500 million shakes 100’s of thousands helped. that sheds lights on the subject for anyone to plainly see.

          • Natasha (Domestica) says:

            Comment by mark has been deleted. Name calling is never okay on my blog and consider this your final warning before being blocked.

            Furthermore, people have every right to assume that cancer comes from poor diet (which in my opinion is McDonald’s, vi shakes, or any other toxic processed food!). That is the whole point of this post!!

        • phyllis lawrence malanfant says:

          stephen senna i have heard the same report on [james cordova] can you contact me.. alo to it may concern please also check the company i’m in …100% organic and chemical free…i as well had cancer and has been alkalizing in this company…love what goes in and on my body!!!!!!we also have oils organic and chemical free……

          • tpage says:

            Shame on you Stephen Senna for talking about James in this way! Do you know him? have you met him or his family? do you know his family history or his story ? People in great health that eat clean die of cancer. Its such an ignorant thing to say that these products killed him.

        • Allison says:

          Pretty interesting that you know where James Cordova’s cancer originated.

          Where are you getting information about people scammed? They have a 90- day guarantee. If you aren’t satisfied with the results you call and they give you your money back.

          • Marion says:

            Does anyone honestly believe that childrens’ charities would associate themselves with a dangerous substance? Vi Shakes and snacks provide nutrients for disadvantaged families in Vi’s generous help programs. Well over a million meals have been donated to undernourished kids, those who would otherwise be in a terrible state of health.
            As for James Cordoba, can you imagine how your cruel comments must affect his wife and children? James obviously had cancer before Vi that was undetected. He was grossly overweight and unfit. All the effort he put in to becoming fit made a huge difference to his life and family. He built a great team of lovely people who are fighting obesity and poor health, leaving his wife with an entrepreneurial legacy.
            Now do your research and discover the growing number of people who are becoming free from medication, including those who happily tell of their freedom from cancer since providing the right nutrition for their immune system to do it’s job. Nobody, even Visalus, claims that Vi is perfect but, whatever they do in their honest intention to promote good health and kill obesity, it has to be affordable to the masses. One would hope that people from a more privileged area of society would have the sense to not frequent burger joints and get themselves into an gross state. That is not the case and these people need the same help and encouragement as those who have known only bad eating habits. Thankfully, more and more health professionals, including doctors, have joined the 90 Day Challenge to lose weight. Obesity is the cause of more health problems and death than any other cause. If weight is the problem, get shot of it with an assured product that I can tell you thatVi people are vibrant, energetic, have lovely hair and skin and they get off their butts and exercise. My own daughter in law is 55 and has the figure of a 20 yr old. She looks after 2 grandchildren ( one a tiny baby) and does all the school runs, after school activities, weekend football, homework, and looks amazing…. thanks to Vi.
            So…… if you are saying Vi is crap, what are you actually eating, how is your health, energy, and your life? Do you have a full time job and family while helping others to gain health and lose weight. Vi is about ‘the others’ not about ‘Me’!
            If I were not a pensioner and finding finances difficult in the current climate, I would probably be on a Mediterranean diet but in the UK it’s very difficult to find non GMO. Vi is non GMO, is replacing corn syrup with stevia, and doing everything possible to educate and inspire those who need to lose weight. None of the other WL products either taste well, are 100% open about the ingredients or have the same health affects. I know what I’ll choose, as did the NATIONAL CENTER FOR CLINICAL EXCELLENCE, who passed Vi after much testing and find it a superb product.

      • Paul says:

        Aspartame was passed as safe by the FDA in the USA after previous rejections over its safety. I would not put my trust in examining boards they usually have pressure applied to them from Powerful Corporate Interests to falsify evidence in order to pass them as safe. How many drugs have been initially been passed as safe only later to find they have serious side effects attached to them or even death.

      • Paul says:

        There is only one way to lose weight safely, just eat less and do more exercise. Its really simple, its not rocket science.

    • anonymous says:

      Would be if they knew what they were talking about…..but alas just another uneducated soul spewing out ignorance

    • Marion says:

      I think you are reading articles by people who have not carried out proper research….. those people will have a negative approach to anything they can’t control or they write it as an ego booster, Do your research. Look on the Vi site and check the ingredients. I’m not sure what you mean by Just another MLM scheme. Every store you visit operates MLM. You just are not aware. Think of all the people involved in producing a car from the mine owners, the miners, the transporters, the smelters, the designers, the factories producing the parts, the assemblers, the paint producers, the sales people, the showrooms and the salesmen, their commission and then the consumer. Each gets paid for his part. Is that not Multi Level Marketing? With something like Visalus that is not marketed commercially, those people who drive hundreds of miles to see clients and spend time with them helping them to overcome their weight or health issues, need to be paid. The person that brought them into the business also needs a reward for the work he put in to training and helping them. Multi level marketing works through recommendation and cuts out the enormous store mark-up on a product with those profits going instead to help people prepared to get off their butt and do an extra job. it’s a Godsend for thousands. You are probably thinking of Amway and the garages full of unsold products. That was bad for many people. However, as a customer with Vi, you can have your own linked website to order your products as you need them.. if you have a friend who just wants the product, you can order it for them and you’ll be rewarded for your effort. Is there something wrong with that? I think you will agree that you would not feel inclined to get involved without reward.. There is a 90 /day Money Back Guarantee with Vi Shakes. Just tell them you didn’t like it and send the rest or an empty packet back.. This is MLM at it’s very best… an honest and reputable outfit that seeks the best for everyone, Hope this helps.

      • Natasha (Domestica) says:

        Thanks for your comment Marion. Yes, I HAVE done my research on the ingredients. I don’t really care if a company is an mlm or not. But I DO care when they use cheap, inferior ingredients. The fact that you’re defending sucralose proves that we have VERY different standards on what constitutes a healthy product. And soy, no matter how “organic” is still heavily processed and harmful (if not outright dangerous). We have plenty of research proving that and I don’t need a bunch of fancy “green-washing” terms to make soy sound better than it really is. And last time I checked, Visalus was not certified organic.

    • Adam says:

      Vi is a MLM , but it does work. I was the biggest naysayer for years now my wife and I drink it. I’m not trying to lose weight on it nor do I sell it so I dont care if anyone drinks it. But just try it out. What could it hurt. You all have tried worse things in your life. Ever had food poisoning before? Your chances are worse of dyingfrom eating food are worse than a smoothie .

  2. michelle says:

    Hi Natasha, I was wondering if you might be able to do a post on what your typical meals are like for breakfast, lunch and dinner, as well as your regular workout routine. I am a recovering runner/hiker who got massively injured after over-doing it. Now, instead of being able to eat whatever I want since I would just run it off, I now have to be really careful about my diet. I’ve always been a very healthy eater, lots of fruits and veggies, no packaged junk food at all, but I could really use your help in portion control and what is a sensible food and workout plan so I wouldn’t have to be so maniacal about exercise to the point where I severely injured myself. Many thanks for your helpful advice. I really, really appreciate your willingness to share. Best, Michelle

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Thanks for the question Michelle! I will definitely think more on this. I know a lot of food bloggers do the “What I Ate Wednesday”, which I have never done…but perhaps I should! I’ll post on this soon — because you are SO right — managing our weight with exercise alone is a ticking time bomb! It won’t work for long…either because we fatigue or our bodies break! So diet/nutrition is the #1 way to manage weight effectively! 🙂

  3. cesarguzzetti says:

    I totally agree these shakes are garbage. How could some one create a shake product then put artificial sweetener in them Not to mention all the preservatives. There are much better choices. In regards to MLM not all create garbage though. I found one called miessnce that creates all organic nutritional and health products. Sure they don’t have all the hype visalus does but visalus is just more cheap american garbage. Also a great product is the ultimate meal. I love it, it is organic and kosher. Great post I will be sure to book mark your site.

  4. Mark Blanton says:

    I find it ironic that you put a plug in for Vega while trying to bash ViSalus…. I have numerous nutritionists, nurses, and nurse practitioners on my team (as customers only not making a dime) that have researched our products thouroughly and were very skeptical at first. However, they did their own research and decided to go with Body By Vi for their personal health goals. And, not all are overweight… One in particular used it for her protein recovery for a marathon (got her off of Muscle Milk) and is seeing awesome results. There is NO aspertame in our products like you claim. We strongly advise to stay away from aspertame. I could go on and on but I won’t (because I’m sure this will get deleted)… I’m almost certain that if I request more info from Vega, you or your team will be the one to send it to me from your own Vega “pyramid scheme”…

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Why is it interesting that I plug Vega? I didn’t understand your concerns with Vega — did you have any?

      As for nutritionists and nurses — well, sorry to burst the “western medicine bubble” but I don’t agree with most things that they teach nutritionists. So I don’t respect their “wisdom” either! Do you know we still teach dieticians and clinical nutritionists that saturated fats are bad?! Ha! The science is ten years old but they still haven’t revised curriculum to show that not ALL saturated fats are bad! In fact, coconut oil is the healthiest fat we can eat — more than any other! So no, I don’t really care about nurses and nutritionists who think they should be taking a daily dose of Sucralose and sunflower oil.

      By the way, where do I claim that Visalus uses aspartame? You misread. I did say “…but I have to come back to my old faithful — artificial sweeteners like Aspartame and Visalus’ poison of choice, Sucralose/Splenda.” I clearly state that Visalus’ “poison of choice” is SUCRALOSE/SPLENDA. And like it or not, splenda is lumped right in there with chemically altered sweeteners like Aspartame.

      And no, I don’t delete comments (unless they’re offensive) but I do TOTALLY encourage you to research Vega — which you can buy at your local Whole Foods or health food store. I have no affiliation with them but respect their ingredients.

      • Alycia N. Tandy says:

        I must jump in on this. I promoted Visalus for 6 months. I was all about it. Then I had an adverse reaction to it which caused my arthritis to inflame causing heart issues. I have now been off for 2 months and am on a Paleo diet and I am finally starting to feel whole and healthy. I too had blinders on, beware Visalus is not a good product.

        • Natasha (Domestica) says:

          Thanks for the comment, Alycia. I’m glad you were able to pinpoint the flare-ups to what was causing them and cut it out! I am not totally pro-Paleo (see my other post titled “Why SCD may be better than Paleo”) but if you’re eating grass-fed meat sources (and especially if you’re an O blood type), then I think it’s MUCH better than any of the other lifestyle diets! Good luck!

      • Kristie says:

        I just found your blog, soul sister! Thanks for speaking the truth and keep up the great work. You’re now on my daily reading list.

    • Bonnie Leimgardt says:

      I have taken Visalus shake product to my pharmacist to research all ingredients for me before I started taking it and he said everything looks good , and he saw no concerns and I trust my pharmacist more than this blog! I recommend taking anything you are going to take to your local trusted pharmacist as they know more about ingredients than anyone! Don’t just listen to people posting blogs!

      • itsfranco says:

        LOL I just had to laugh… you trust your “dope dealer” (pharmacist) more than a blog… LOLOLOL. The more you post, the more “sales hack” and apologist you sound. Point blank: you probably wouldn’t bother with this had you not “researched” the “ingredients” in the comp plan.

        • shauna says:

          Pharmacists are smarter than most doctors. They are constantly learning new information after they get their degree. The truth is there is going to be negative feedback about everything and everything. Visalus is just another fad. Just like blogging.

        • Pam says:

          I so agree with your comment about pharmacist be “dope (drug) dealers” and western doctors are the drug pushers. Both professions are giving uninformed people things that are bad for them. So compared to their drugs they push the ingredients in the Vi shakes must seem safe.

      • Josh says:

        You are a sheeple.. Pharmacists are the doctors of death. Their whole job is to keep you sick and going back to the doctor. Wake up, don’t be a sheep! Anything a pharmacist is going to tell you is a lie plain and simple they have been poisoning people for years with their chemicals and side effects. When a drug has one benefit and 10 side effects do you really think its helping you? Get a clue…. BAHHHHH SHEEP…….

        • Darrell says:

          I’m a pharmacist and DETEST Big Pharma AND advocate MINIMAL medication and MAXIMUM nutritional health. I WAS a ViSalus promoter for a SHORT time until I FULLY RESEARCHED the ingredients, how they are manufactured, how they are metabolized in the body, etc. I SERIOUSLY doubt that the above mentioned and quoted “pharmacist” even knows Jack @%#! about nutrition and is a Big Pharma Zombie… Take it from a NATURALISTIC-FIRST Pharmacist from here in the USA that Big Pharma Companies DO NOT create CURES…they CREATE CUSTOMERS. PERIOD. I could give many a pharmacist a REAL “education” about what the Big Pharmas are all about and the lies that they spew and the propaganda that they spread in this country. After much more research, I found a far more nutritious, 100% Organic and 100% Toxin Free (yes, Sucralose IS A NEURO-TOXIN) so that I could ethically and conscientiously recommend to my patients/clients/customers… More on that later if anyone wants to know.

          • Stacie says:

            Hi Darrell, you’re a pharmacist?? This has absolutely nothing to do with this blog topic, but I have Lupus an Chronic Pancreatitis and take soooooooo I mean sooooooo many medications…..my health is getting worse, I am only 26 with 2 young children and I have literally knocked on deaths door about 5 times in the last 7 years. I would love to get some advice from you on everything I am taking. I don’t trust my CVS pharmacist ( I have Caremark insurance , which is CVS, so that’s the only place I can get my meds from). Would you mind giving me your email so I could PM you and discuss with you everything I’m on. I would really appreciate it!!

          • Jan says:

            Hey Darrell, I have been informed that there are only about 5 trace minerals in the Vi shake, compared to many others…..some of which have around 50. If people are taking it as a meal replacement, they would have to incorporate lots of other supplements as well…….would you agree?

      • Julie says:

        Sure it looks good but if He thinks that Your only getting one dose!Did You explain that You are doubling it daily?SUNFLOWER OIL
        Fats are good for you — and especially when you’re trying to lose weight. But not all fats are created equal. A healthy fat will contain a proper ratio of omega 3 and 6 fatty acids. Vegetable oils, however, have an improper ratio, creating an omega 3 deficiency. It’s safe to say that a proper intake of omega 3 is beneficial in many ways, even being linked to protecting us against cancer. But a high intake of omega 6′s, on the other hand, has been proven to promote the pathogenesis of many diseases, including cardiovascular disease, cancer, and inflammatory and autoimmune diseases¹. But again, these types of vegetable oils are in abundance and cheap, cheap, cheap to use. Companies using them are after one thing, MORE PROFITS. Not your health.
        So basically how I understand this is too much is bad not good!

      • adam orlando says:

        I think I would trust a pharmacist any day over some of these bloggers who know nothing. Especially the guy that calls them “dope dealers”. I asked my doctor the same about Vi and she said that its o.k. My wife is only to drink one a day while breast feeding. But why should we listen to those morons, that only went to school for 1/3 of their lives. They know nothing at all…..Lol. Too many people on these blogs are misinformed by the internet, probably reading wiki. Those are not always correct. Until bodies start turning up from people drinking Visalus im not gonna listen to these weirdo’s!

        • T says:

          I find it insane that a company visalus, who has only been around for 7 years can say that drinking visalus while pregnant or doing your challenges aka (almost starving yourself with low calories) is safe while making a life. They haven’t had nearly enough time or research to guarantee vi is safe and a healthy meal for a pregnant or nursing mother…..just crazy….not to mention the soy overload for your poor fetus..geesh! What are your thoughts on this Natasha, my sister in law is crazy for vi, she claims its a magic shake and nothing ever helped her lose weight before even eating healthy and working out everyday. I say if you replaced 2 major meals a day with vega protein and ate a healthy dinner with snacks during the day and excercised would give you the same results. Or here’s a thought, just eat healthy foods and not let your body go into starvation mode to turn everything to fat…healthy metabolism is a good way to lose weight too….

          • Natasha (Domestica) says:

            I would definitely agree. But that being said, if people think I’m strict about eating clean, I’m even MORE strict when it comes to eating while pregnant! I think the rise in childhood cancers, autoimmune diseases, allergies, autism, etc…are all part of our toxic-filled environments and diets.

          • Adam says:

            I agree with you totally on the issue of Vi and pregnancy. How could they really know, they dont! I have mentioned alot of good things about Vi but I will say the two bad things that forced us to stop drinking them. Nothing serious but more precautionary. I would drink one every morning and it gave me alot of energy, almost too much! I felt like I was taking ephedrine based products. The other thing was while my wife was breast feeding , our son had EXTREMELY bad heart burn. He was only an infant and I cant probe it was from the Vi, but once my wife stopped drinking the shakes, my sons heartburn got alot better. It actually was almost non-existent anymore.

            So I would suggest a person who wants to lose wait to try the Vi challenge, but I totally agree with this post. There is no real scientific evidence to prove it is safe for fetuses. The facts are posted by pregnant women who are trying to sell Vi,

    • Candice says:

      I am not a seller of ViSalus, I have no vested interest in the company. I have a friend who does sell the shake mix. He had been mentioning the challenge on his facebook page daily and updating his progress. 3 months later I ran into some medical problems and now it’s hard for me to process solid food. I figured I’d check into while I’m going to my doctor getting my issues worked out. So I investigated it because I am the worlds biggest skeptics on shake diets. 12grams of protein from GMO FREE soy and WHEY, 30% of your vitamins and minerals, and since you put milk, juice and fruit in it, there is a lot of nutrition there. This shake is not loaded with chemicals and junk, and get off the splenda bashing wagon, it’s still too early to see any long term effects from it. It is completely different from other artificial sweeteners.

  5. Dora Throckmorton says:

    I have some friends (husband & wife) who recently began taking this product. Both seem to be pleased with their weight loss so my curiosity got the best of me and I wanted to see what all the fuss is about. After reading your blog – you can be assured that this product will NEVER be introduced into my body. This product is a time bomb waiting to go off !!!

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Good for you for checking it out for yourself! So many of us just want a quick fix but we’re not willing to really put the work into discovering what’s actually causing our weight problems. That said, there are plenty of healthy supplements on the market and although I believe that REAL FOOD is our #1 supplement, it’s nice to have some healthy alternatives on hand when you’re in a pinch!

      • Dora Throckmorton says:

        Not sure if my previous reply was sent, but I agree with you 100% that real food (especially plant based foods) are the key to
        our health. I have been taking Juice Plus+ for over a year now and wouldn’t have it any other way. Fruits, veggies & grains – dehydrated and encapsulated. It’s my ‘salad bar in a capsule’ !

      • Rosemary Castaldo says:

        Yeah, get that ‘real’ food from the cows & chickens that are shot up with hormones. And get all your veggies sprayed with pesticides and grown in fields where the ground is totally depleted of any nutrients…. I’ll die from my Vi shakes…they’re delicious. I’ll die happy, thin & rich….Thank you very much!

    • Lisa says:

      I work in a health food store. In my opinion you are absolutley right. Its crap…I am not partial to any protein powder in particular, because we have so many in the store, but Vega is good and seems to be a big hit with customers. It seems to speak for itself. I make no commission off of anything in the store. I Am However much more educated from working there. People absultely have no idea what they are putting into their body when they take visalis. Everything you have said about the ingrediants and what it does is right on the money.

      • Natasha (Domestica) says:

        Thanks for commenting Lisa! I think you’re right that Vega speaks for itself. It’s hard to find supplements that are both high-quality ingredients AND taste good so I think that’s why vega has been so successful. I also like that Brendan Brazier, the creator of Vega, has a book (Thrive Diet) where he gives the actual recipes for almost all his products! So if you REALLY want to source out 12 different types of seaweeds (lol!) you can make it yourself! Now that’s transparency!!

        • Mark Blanton says:

          Again!! Sounds like u all wrote this solely to promote Vega… That’s ok! Numbers don’t lie and ViSalus is number 1 for a reason… Find this pretty amusing but an intelligent bit of marketing for Vega. Considering most customers wouldn’t know half of what yall are saying means anyways… Lmao

          • Mimi Kennedy says:

            Visalus is “number 1” because it’s a MLM. :/ NOT because it’s a healthy alternative to a healthier lifestyle.

          • CQ says:

            Visalus is #1 what? #1 for before and after pics on Facebook…yup I’d agree with you there…cause you have a bunch of people sluffing crappy products just to make a buck.

            #1 fastest growing MLM in 2011? yup they were…big deal. because they have good marketing! That’s it.

            And you’re right..it is sad that most customers don’t understand any of this. Good marketing can sell shit to a cattle rancher.

          • steph says:

            ViSalus is acid forming, Vega is alkaline forming. ViSalus is a quick, unsustainable, expensive weight loss gimmick. Its MLM and its all about profits, then they develop a product. I was introduced to this before it came to Canada. I saw huge potential for sales, and a way to make some money, and drive a BMW (no thanks)! People are so desparate to loose weight they will try anything and this is a quick short term fix. How about exercise, lean protein, veg, nuts, seeds, salads, good fats…real food? I know ViSalus is not healthy at all, don’t even want to waste my time explaining why, but I do feel sad for all the people suckered into this, watch your weight come back, and some more as soon as you stop!

          • Mark Blanton says:

            @Steph: If you don’t change your eating/exercise habits, EVERYTHING is a quick fix! We promote a healthy lifestyle and if you have changed as many lives as I have with your product, then we can talk… I’ve had almost 1,000 customers and more success stories than you can count… Even Weight Watchers (the only other company to have more sales in US and Canada than us in 2012 might I add), has an advertised 18 month recidivism rate… People that don’t change their habits and lifestyle will always gain it back as soon as they go back to their old ways of eating and being lazy!! We promote a Challenge. That Challenge does not include sitting on your butt and getting skinny… It includes making a lifestyle change and changing your life!!

          • steph says:

            I am sure people have changed their life style and for the better, they learn more about nutrition, exercise, mind and body. I do strongly believe that this whole approach is needed. Shakes alone, especially Visalus can not achieve lasting results. This will fizzel out, and many people will move on to eating real food, and most unfortunetly will gain the weight back. I personally think the product is crap, and I like many others are entitled to that opinion. There are better, and MUCH cleaper shakes out there, make your own, blend vegetables in your blender, drink wheat grass (so inexpensive). You see people have results, but the picture is bigger, the shake can not take the credit. I know people who have used this, had great results, and have gained the weight back. Many many people. – I do also like Vega, I DO NOT WORK FOR THEM! Protein is from plant sources.

          • bendewish says:

            @Steph – You wrote, “Shakes alone, especially Visalus can not achieve lasting results.” I totally agree with you, and with Mark. ViSalus may fade with time, maybe Herbalife will too, maybe even McDonald’s french fries will cease to be popular one day. Maybe not. I think it is inspiring an awesome to see the many people who changed their life around by using ViSalus.

      • Noni says:

        I looked up Vega shake in Amazon.com. It seems like initially people were satisfied with the product but they made some changes to it with half the nutrients. You can look it up on Amazon.com yourself.

        • Natasha (Domestica) says:

          Hi Noni,

          I don’t see those reviews and I’ve looked at all the Amazon reviews for the Sport Protein Powder (which is different than their meal replacement shakes)…?? Yes, they did change their formula a year or so ago which I think was great because the protein powders and meal replacement shakes now taste a LOT better! For me, the vitamin and mineral content is more than adequate.

  6. Dale says:

    I don’t use Visalis myself, but have been looking into it and that’s how I ended up here. My thoughts on the whole thing is that if we broke all of our foods, that we consume on a daily basis, down one by one, we would find that they are all chock-full of poisons. I believe that is one of the reasons why cancer rates are so high. Our meat is injected with hormones, and god knows what else, while it’s still walking on four legs, then other ungodly things are done to it to make it last longer on the shelf and look fresher than it really is. Fructose corn syrup is pretty bad, in its self, and is in everything now… not to mention artificial colors, etc. that is in everything else. It seems like if a new butter substitute comes out, it will never get much attention, but another product will come out that hits diet fad status and all of a sudden everyone becomes an armchair chemist, when in fact the other product may be just as bad or worse and everyone will eat it daily and never think twice about it. Take bread for instance… I wouldn’t know how to make bread, but I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t need all the crap that’s listed on the back of the one that’s sitting on top of my refrigerator right now. I’m not saying here that we should all say “oh, ok, brand B is poison, but so was brand A, so who cares” …I’m saying that if we all studied the ingredients of all foods with as much enthusiasm as we do the fad foods, we would all benefit and probably live a lot longer.

      • Dale says:

        Your blog has made me tune in to the Sucralose thing. I’ve looked at the ingredients of two other products besides Visalis… Body Fortress whey protein powder sold at Wal-Mart and Pure Protein brand protein bar sold at our local convenience store… both are sweetened with Sucralose. I’m thinking you might be hard pressed to find a protein supplement that is not sweetened with it. Personally, I don’t want to do the soy thing… I wasn’t too crazy about what I read about ingesting too much soy… does anyone know of a protein supplement that is both whey protein and not sweetened with Sucralose?
        I don’t understand the artificial sweetener thing at all. In my opinion, if you’re not consuming tons of it and you’re not diabetic, a little natural sugar never hurt anyone.

        • Natasha (Domestica) says:

          Thanks for the note, Dale! Yes, most of the whey protein powders on the market are full of artificial garbage! Sadly. I found an amazing whey protein powder that was absolutely delicious (using stevia) and I would still use it today if my body could handle whey (which it can’t). You can read that blog here: https://fabulouslydomestic.com/2011/05/03/isolated-protein/

          As I mentioned in the follow-up post to this article, I use Vega’s products because they are entirely plant-based (working for my sensitive digestive system) and have been super effective in helping me build lean muscle — I noticed a big difference after using them. Plus, I like the transparency of Vega’s products (the creator has published a few books where he gives you the recipes so you could essentially make them yourself if you wanted to!). But if you’re looking for whey, I would recommend Tera’s Whey (as mentioned in that article linked above!).

          • Steve Bugiel says:

            Hi Natasha,
            I use Pure Trim Shakes they are made of Non GMO Brown Rice and Pea Blend you make with water not milk, I did my research as well and although it has Suralose I learned it has 3MG compared to 100MG used in most meal replacements, have you heard of such a thing or do you know or can we know as consumers how much we are getting per shake, I asked the company because most said it is hard to find one without the use of suralose, and the only reason they us it is for the integrity of the taste and these vanilla/chocolate do I must say taste awesome, but do we need to know or should we fight to know how much is used in each serving making it perhaps a label law I would love to see that implemented. This way we as consumers can make a more informative choice on what to take long term or short term for that matter. They also from the box have prebiotics, essential fatty acids and super greens blend with 400MG of calcium from living plants -21g of protein per packet. Have you heard of this product and if so in your opinion is it safe?

          • Natasha (Domestica) says:

            Thanks for the comment Sylvia. I did check out the ingredients of Isagenix Pro Shake and it’s not something I would take myself or recommend to readers. The sweetener of choice is fructose, which is harmful to the liver (sugar is made of 50/50 fructose/glucose but since our bodies don’t use fructose for energy [only glucose], the fructose is shunted right to our livers much in the same way alcohol is and doesn’t offer any benefit). In addition, one of the top ingredients is isomaltooligosaccharide, which is a “digestive-resistant carbohydrate” that is manufactured in a lab…not real food! I also don’t believe in “digestive-resistant” man-made frankenfoods because our bodies were never meant to eat them and that’s proven by the fact that our digestive systems don’t know how to break them down! Because they’re not real foods so they pass right through us, taxing our colon and digestive tract on the way out.

            Starches (which isomaltooligosaccharide is made from) are also known to be digestive irritants and can cause gas, bloating, and for people with digestive disorders like ulcerative-colitis, Chrohns, IBS, etc, can have severe flare-ups when eaten.

            Furthermore, most the vitamins and minerals appearing on the ingredients list seem to be man-made versions of what is naturally occurring in many foods. It’s just cheaper to make them in a lab than it is to use the real deal…which is another reason I have yet to find any MLM protein supplement worth recommending. 😦

    • itsfranco says:

      so that makes it ok to put more poisons in?? Yep… western “logic”… at least it has a great “comp plan!” smh

      • Natasha (Domestica) says:

        Hi Marcus — great question. I looked into Shakeology ingredients and I’m impressed. It looks like a good whole food replacement shake. That said, I think the stevia is slightly misleading since the first sweetener listed on their ingredients is “non-GMO fructose”…but hey, at least it’s non-GMO! But fructose is the most damaging of sugars (artificial sugars notwithstanding) since our bodies don’t use fructose for anything and it is treated as a toxin and shunted to the liver immediately (like alcohol is). And with 9g of sugar per serving (in the Chocolate one), it’s quite a bit higher than Vega’s 2g of sugar (in their Chocolate meal replacement shake). But all that said, I would think Shakeology looks healthier than most the meal replacement shakes on the market today.

        Once you get a product with decent ingredients, the next issue is to find a company that uses high-quality ingredients. So the first step is to find products that use ingredients you agree with and the next step is to find a company that you trust and believe are using top quality ingredients in their products. One of the best ways to tell is how much the product costs. If it’s cheap, they are most likely using cheap ingredients. Next red flag would be any product that’s mass-produced — so if Wal-Mart or Costco is carrying the product, it might be a good indication that the company is using cheap ingredients in order to fulfill such high demand.

        • Marcus says:

          Thanks. I trust Beachbody and their products. It’s Visalus who I don’t trust. I did a 90 Day Challenge drinking the Vi Shakes and lost 20+ lbs; however, I lost some muscle. I was seeing a woman who promotes the Vi Challenge. I was too but she stopped seeing me because I guess she thought I wasn’t a going to do the biz with her. I lost some friends and a cousin as a result.

          I started to look at the ingredients of the shake and decided it was not for me. I won’t even recommend it to people with diabetes.

          Shakeology is more expensive than Vi Shakes. However, I am friends on FB with the creator of Shakeology. He will never use sucralose or any other artificial sweeteners. They are toxins to the body. I talked to a relative about Visalus over the weekend, and he had nothing good to say about the Vi Shakes. He said sucralose and soy are not good for anyone. Even he told me to stay with Shakeology.

          • Rosemary Castaldo says:

            The sugar content of Shakeology is very high, and as we know, sugar is the enemy of weight loss. My husband is pre-diabetic and his numbers went significantly down with Visalus. Nothing is perfect, so find something that works for you. If someone can’t maintain their weight loss taking one shake a day, or a few a week, then that’s pretty sad…

          • Marcus says:


            You need to really do the research with Visalus. Visalus is nothing more than the “Slimfast of the 21st Century”. Your husband may have went down in his numbers; however, you can’t keep drinking a shake everyday for the rest of your life as a “replacement” meal. At some point, real food needs to be the main focus to any food lifestyle. I find it ironic that Visalus claims their shakes are diabetic friendly yet there are ingredients in their shakes that can still trigger a diabetic episode in a person who is diabetic.

            Sucralose is a drug. It’s not classified as one because the FDA gets a kick back from companies like Visalus. Sucralose will feul any cancer in a person’s body because it attacks the liver and kills up to 50% of the good bacteria in the intestines. Why do you think Visalus is coming out with ViDefy for? They are trying to correct the damage that is caused by the shakes.

            Do you and your husband truely believe that the Isoflavones are removed from the Vi shakes just because Visalus says they are? Visalus nothing more than a pryamid scheme company that has already ripped a lot people out of their money. I am one of those people.

            You said something about Shakeology’s sugar content being high. You are right because it involves natural sugar. Not processed sugar like Sucralose or Aspartame. You are right about nothing is perfect; however, I have a choice not to put something posionous like a Vi shake in my body.

            You drink whatever you want, Rosemary. I leave you with this one thought that so many Visalians don’t think about. There was a man who died from Stage IV Liver Cancer last year. He is only a few weeks older than I am. I think today would have been his 42nd birthday. His name was James Cardova. He sounded like a really nice man who loved his family. It’s sad that he passed away so fast and an early age. James did about 12 or so back to back Body By Vi challenges. He got into good shape; however, the sucralose in the shakes didn’t burn out of his system.

            What’s more is Nick Sarnicola, one of the co-founders, started to capitalize on James’ death. Nick is a very good speaker and knows what an audience wants to hear to “feel good”. I doubt seriously that Nick really cared about James. I think he uses James’ memory to help boost sales for Visalus so that he and the other two can get richer and richer off of the people on the bottom of the pyramid. I had a chance to to meet him but decided to not after seeing some videos floating on YouTube.

            That’s why I like people like Natasha. Because they actually care about your health. I thought she wrote a very good article. She’s not the only one who warns people about Visalus. There are a lot of others out there. Best of luck for you and your husband’s health.

          • Natasha (Domestica) says:

            In full transparency, I will say that I have deleted a comment from Mark Blanton.

            Mark: I am fully supportive of having both sides of the argument represented here but I DO NOT tolerate name-calling. PERIOD.

          • kathy says:

            Natasha, you aren’t really going to let all those lies and slander postedstand unchallenged are you? This discussion has been heated,but no one has crossed the line into outright falsehoods and personal attacks as this guy. Really? Using a guy who died of cancer and left behind a wife and kids to point out what? Are we expected to believe that nobody in beachbody has died of cancer. I really wish you would examine his statements and draw the line here. Disagreements we all have, but this guy is slanderous and borderline nutty.

          • Natasha (Domestica) says:

            Kathy: I have read and re-read the comment from Marcus. In no way do I find it to be offensive. In fact, other than his unsubstantiated comment about the FDA getting kick-backs for sucralose, his comment is nothing but facts. It would be no different than a newscaster or journalist stating the facts and then drawing reasonable conclusions. This is not “slander” nor are they “lies”. They are simply Marcus’ opinions based on the facts he has taken in.

            I’m sorry that the late Mr. Cardova had a wife and children. I’m sorry that he died of liver cancer. But if anything, this just CONFIRMS what I (and many people here) are saying: that Visalus products may help you lose weight but they will also increase your chances of cancer due to the questionable ingredients. And don’t get me wrong, Visalus is NOT the only product doing this…our supermarkets are flooded with “food” that is doing the exact same thing.

            It is true that our gut flora is now being linked to our immune health and our ability to ward off cancer. It’s well-known fact that the ph balance of our body either allows cancer to thrive or die. Acidic ph-balance equals cancer-friendly environment; alkaline environment gives cancer the boot. Knowing that many of the Visalus ingredients cause an acidic environment, then I don’t think Marcus was wrong in saying that it could have caused a speedily decline in Mr. Cardova’s health. I would even go so far as to say that his cancer could have been thwarted, or at the very least, stunted, by a more plant-based alkaline diet.

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Hi Dawn,

      I tried to look for Juice Plus’ ingredients but their website doesn’t seem to have them posted. That is always a huge red flag for me. When I Googled “Juice Plus ingredients”, I found some third-party website (including Wikipedia) which outline why there is so much controversy over the so-called “studies” that Juice Plus claims prove it’s efficacy. Truth is, “peer-reviewed studies” don’t mean a whole heck of a lot anymore…anyone can get a study done to back up their own biased opinion.

      MLM products are always cheap which helps the company make a profit while still funding the whole multi-level marketing scheme — I’ve yet to see that statement proven wrong and I don’t think Juice Plus is any different. I wouldn’t spend my money on it. If you’re looking for a veggie supplement, try Greens+. You don’t need a fruit supplement (like Juice Plus says you do) but if you want a superfood supplement, there are plenty of good ones on the market. 🙂

      • Lisa E says:

        Hi, great info here, except peer reviewed studies on pubmed.gov are true, validated science. That is the National Institute of Health’s largest repository for biomedical research, where doctors go to do their research. In fact, it’s the “gold standard” for biomedical research globally, and only about 5% of research even makes it to that site. In many cases, PhDs from universities around the world conduct these studies because certain products and the science behind them are so compelling that they choose to study them using their own funds and dedicating their time to do it.

        Thanks for a lot of great info here!!l

  7. Nicci says:

    I started visalus last year,and I hope my body detoxes soon.i believed every last one line zinger they cheered about!i started to get massive migraines that caused me to be so drained.my stomach hurt all the time.visalus put up YouTube video,explains to us that our bodies had to get used to the ingredients.since stopping,the headaches went away.i recall upon waking up I’d have the so it’s great they are gone,but my intestines are not alright.i don’t know what happened but I have more problems tan i can handle,also,I stay so darn tired out,some ads I feel as though I ran a race although I can’t make myself get up.please truly research soy facts.they did not specially treat their soy,it’s a lie.i read about it until my mind s as tired as my body.its so unhealthy.please,please,just eat right.

    • Wendy says:

      Please do not take Visalis especially ,if you have been diagnosed with thyroid disease. Looking for research done by the company prior to it hitting the market.

  8. Sonya Sullins says:

    What about Yoli?
    I stumbled upon it recently and tried a sample…and I think it’s the best one I’ve found so far. I haven’t tried Vega or even heard of it. I’ll check my local Whole Foods!

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Hi Sonya — I’d never heard of Yoli before! After checking it out, I’m impressed with their ingredients — sweeteners used are stevia, xylitol, and monk fruit (labeled as the Chinese name, luo han guo). And I like that their “better body” plan includes probiotics and ph-balance supplements. The more live cultures, the better the probiotic…so powdered form isn’t as good as say, your own homemade yogurt, but any probiotics is better than nothing. And maintaining a healthy ph-balance is so important (since the average American diet is VERY acid-forming and that’s exactly where cancer cells love to thrive). My only concern with Yoli would be that it’s still an MLM situation — which doesn’t necessarily mean it’s bad, but it’s just a red flag for me. And the cost of their supplements is quite high to compensate for the whole MLM scheme (if you sell to three friends, you get your products free).

      I loosely estimated the cost of their products vs. the products I buy that are similar (i.e. Vega protein shakes compared to their whey shake, probiotic pill compared to their “immune and digestive” supplement). and it was nearly double the price…

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Hi Cammie,

      Yes, Jay Robb’s egg white protein powder uses stevia — but xylitol provides the majority of its sweetness. So far we think that xylitol is safe so not a big deal there. My concern would be the xantham gum (a polysaccharide bacterial growth used as a thickening agent) and lecithin, an emulsifier that can be totally natural but more often than not, is extracted from cheap sources (i.e. GMO soy) using chemical processes. Both additives are only necessary for processed foods which should tell us something, right?

  9. Megan says:

    I’d say the soy protein isolate was the most dangerous ingredient of all and should be in your top 3. Full of toxins and carcinogens.

  10. CQ says:

    I started using Visalus shakes about 8 months ago and noticed within a month or two my eyesight got very blurry…..to the point that I went from not wearing glasses to wearing reading glasses all day long…borderline having to get a prescription. I found many places on the internet that talk about Sucralose causing blurry vision so I stopped taking the shakes and within 3-4 weeks my vision was back to normal. I was lucky I stopped in time to not cause any permanent damage…can’t imagine where my vision would be if I continued to take these shakes for life like the company recommends. Thanks for posting the truth about the ingredients.

  11. Cheryl Townsley says:

    As a Naturopathic Doctor who has worked with over 22,000 patients and over 1500 products, I originally thought the product couldn’t be effective based on the ingredient list. However, some dear to me (my husband) asked me to look at it. I did my due diligence (hours and hours), tested it on over 100 people and came to a change of mind. I’ve had an organic, clean diet for 20 years, done over 200 cleanses, had mercury removed, etc. I had struggled with 45% body fat no matter how I changed my diet and exercise and working with a trainer. As a result of using the Vi Shake with a clean diet, I’ve gone from 45% to 22% body fat and gained muscle. Our daughter had struggled with a 20 year sugar addiction even with her mom knowing all that she does. As a result of the VI shake our daughter has knocked that sugar addiction and lost 50+ pounds. I can’t deny these results and many others on our Team. We recommend a quality diet, learning about digestion, water, and a healthy lifestyle. I’ve found that just knocking something isn’t always the best way to handle conflict. Cheryl Townsley N.D.

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Thanks for weighing in on this issue, Cheryl! All of our bodies are unique and I think what is manageable for one, is completely toxic for another. So although you haven’t experienced the nasty side effects of artificial sweeteners (yet!), I don’t think it means that your body isn’t being negatively affected by them. Time will tell. That’s just not a risk I’m willing to take. Weight loss is not the only sign of a healthy body. Many skinny people die from cancer.

    • Mark Blanton says:

      Thank u Dr. Townsley! That is an awesome testimony for our products. I have used several of ur YouTube videos to help people learn the TRUTH… Appears others should be watching them too. I placed a reply from Audrey Sommerfeld on here a couple weeks ago. Ironically, it never made it to the forum…. Hmmm? You freakin’ rock doc 🙂

    • Ronda Rhodes says:

      Excellent testimony from a Naturopathic Doctor!!!! Thank You for confirming VISalus is changing lives for the better!!!!

  12. Ben Dover says:

    To the blind bat in this forum, if your meant to go blind its not the coffee that you drink with sucralose in it tht will make you go blind, holy cow! Just imagine if you purchased Vega from the retailer above who makes no $$$ working in retail. You may have required a lobotomy to take out the toxins yuo ingested. Is this what blogging is all about. Uninformed crackpots expressing tunnel vision perspective. fat people, skinny people oversized people die from cancer as well. I’ve been on Visalus for years and so have my friends and we don’t have blurry vision. I don’t sell the stuff, i don’t work in a nutrition shop and i don’t make $$$ from it. Reading this crap about sales in regards to Vega from a store clerk who doesn’t gets paid for selling is pure BS. so how can they compare retail brands when Visalus is not retail. Yikes is right.

    • Mark Blanton says:

      Absolutely Ben… Our Vision is actually improving because of the ingredients in the Go energy drinks that our military pilots are using for visual acuity! It’s funny how I placed a large reply covering all these issues by Audrey Sommerfeld and it never posted…. Ironic isn’t it that ppl font wanna proved wrong because it will make them look stupid…. If the shoe fits… Lol

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Not sure which “sales clerk” you’re referring to but I don’t work in a nutrition shop (or any other shop, for that matter!). I only recommend Vega because I believe in the ingredients and the company’s work ethics. I have never benefited financially in any way from that endorsement.

      But like I said, every person’s body is different so just because one person experienced blurry vision doesn’t necessarily mean you will. Just because you haven’t experienced negative side effects (or aren’t in tune enough with your body to notice them) doesn’t prove that the ingredients are harmless. Likewise, someone’s negative side effects don’t necessarily prove anything either. But the science speaks for itself — chlorinated sugar that passes through your body undetected as “food” (and therefore indigestible) is not something I’ll put in my system…regardless of personal testimonies.

  13. Ben Dover says:

    wah wah wah… im in my 50s, trained for close to 30 years, im tight at 6′ 190 lbs and i don’t wear glasses. Your right i have no clue about what it is to be in tune with my body and the only nutritional supplmnts i ingest is Visalus. Again i reiterate i don’t sell the stuff nor make any $$$ from it. i tried vega and i prefer greens and veggies to it it has no bounce to it whatsoever its a flatliner… Thats the reality

  14. CQ says:

    Hi Remember me? The blind bat from a few comments ago…After I realized what it was doing to my vision, I started asking around…and funny enough I found 11 out of 25 people that I asked had also noticed a significant increase in blurry vision. These were people that have been taking the shakes for upwards of 6-8 months or more. That freaked me out.

    There are only 2 studies that include humans and the effects of Sucralose. Both studies were 12 weeks long and only involved 36 people. I didn’t notice anything significant after 12 weeks…it was after months and months and it was progressive…not instant. And this has been the same from every person I’ve talked to so far. You can use your body as a guinea pig…but I won’t. And I won’t encourage others to either.

    Didn’t doctors used tell us cigarettes were not harmful in the 60’s? And didn’t the government assure us that asbestos was safe too? Don’t be sheep and believe everything you hear in main stream media and from corporations.

    Dr. Witherly even said on stage they are trying to formulate it out of the shakes. If it’s not harmful ..why would they do that?? Do they not really believe that it is safe and harmless?? Read between the lines.

    If you want to know for sure…ask 25 people you know who have been taking the shakes for more than 6, 8 or even 12 months….if they’ve noticed any decrease in their vision or blurriness.

    I hope you find no one…but it didn’t take me long to find 11 out of 25 people. Would love to hear the results.

    To find the truth..follow the money.

    • Mark Blanton says:

      I’ve been drinking 1 or 2 shakes per day and using the other products for almost 17 months! I still have 20/10 vision in both eyes. Military pilots are using our Go energy drinks because of the increased night vision and mental acuity they experience! Not everything works for everybody! But, most cases, ppl need to find the real root of their issues before blaming products that they probably didn’t use as directed anyways!

      • itsfranco says:

        just “common sensing” out loud… how many people would be this “passionate” about promoting a crap product if there was no “fairy tale” comp plan attached?

        Why else would any “good product” promoter go so negative on a good product (vega) even if it’s not another competing mlm… talk about “mlm blindness”… it’s hilarious. and sad. what people do for the fantasy of money.

        Calling people “blind bats” and still wanting to be taken seriously? lol

        • Mark Blanton says:

          I didn’t call anybody a blind bat!! Nor did I down Vega… I know nothing about it. All I know is what our products are doing for me, my family, and my friends… Healthwise!!!

    • Mark Blanton says:

      And, we are NO different than ALL the other products on the market that use direct selling (i.e. Monavie, Herbalife, Yoli, Vemma, etc)… They are making money too… Come to think of it, so is Vega, GNC, and the rest! The only reason we are the #1 fastest growing company is because our products actually work and dont taste like a$$! Heart Smart certified and Kosher Dairy certified by the Orthodox Union isn’t crap!!

  15. CQ says:

    Oh and for all those Vi people shouting out how the soy is non-gmo did you ever think to ask about any of the other products…some are GMO….just for the record. This is all just “marketing trickery”.

  16. SueM! (@Socratic1) says:

    I promote Essante’ Organics and we will put our PH 7.365 alkaline shakes up against any product out there for nutrition and NO toxic sweeteners. – We use stevia. – our ingredients are wild crafted and organic. We use NO soy, or whey. As to MLM being a scheme, better do your research. It’s a legitimate business structure that’s taught in colleges.

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Thanks for the comment! Essante looks very interesting — I like the philosophy. The only ingredient I found questionable in your PH 7.365 shake was guar gum (thickening agent) but to be honest, guar gum is the least of my worries when it comes to most nutritional shakes. So, I’m impressed. Unfortunately, I can’t do grains (like amaranth and quinoa), so I wouldn’t do well with your shakes. Otherwise I might try them. 😉

      For the record, I didn’t say that all MLM’s were sketchy, I just said it’s a “red flag” because you have to admit, most MLM’s (heck, most companies) are greed-focused. If Essante can still make a buck while not compromising their integrity, that’s awesome! But it’s an exception to the rule.

      Merry Christmas!

      • Thomas Then says:

        Natasha will you please check out Ocean Avenues products? They are put together by an amazing individual by the name of Franco Cavaleri maybe you have heard of him…?

        products: http://www.myoave.com/shapeup/WAVNutritionLine.aspx

        If you would like to read about Franco..http://www.oceanavenue.com/chief-science-officer

        I posted another fee also just didn’t see the approval yet but very curious on your feedback 🙂 Thanks!!

        p.s. and I agree with your view of some MLM. That is one thing I loved about this company.. they came to Franco wanting to use his products.. They didn’t start a MLM and then create a product.. They built this business around a great product that already existed!!

        • Natasha (Domestica) says:

          Thanks for the comment, Thomas! I did look through Ocean Avenue’s products and was impressed. The only question I had was the quantities as the website didn’t list the sizes of the products so I couldn’t do a cost comparison with my other high-quality protein powders.

        • Mark Blanton says:

          ViSalus did create a Direct Selling company or MLM around a product that already existed… It is called the ViPak that was our original product from 2005-2006 until the other products and The Challenge were launched in 2009… Just to clarify

      • SueM! (@Socratic1) says:

        Thanks for the comments on my Essante’ post Natasha! At Essante’ we also offer 100% organic super reds and earth greens for assistance in assuring healthy intakes of high ORAC super fruits and powerful greens, all no heat dehydration not heat pastureized (sp?) Also, we offer 100% toxic chemical free personal care products. Have you ever checked the products you use – Go here: http://www.ewg.org/skindeep – If you use any off the shelf toothpaste for example, most if not all contain poisons. Happy New Year!

        • Natasha (Domestica) says:

          Hi again! Thanks for posting the Skin Deep link — I love that organization and use it often! I am actually drafting a post right now to promote it. What a great consumer resource. That said, our family is about as hippy as you get! I make my own laundry detergent, toothpastes, deodorant, moisturizers, facial wash, and we don’t use shampoo/conditioners (AT ALL!). We really don’t buy any health/beauty products anymore! The only thing I haven’t yet been able to make myself is makeup! So I look for natural mineral products and use Skin Deep to guide my purchases. 🙂

        • Cindy says:

          Hi Sue,
          Do you have any samples available for the chocolate shake? I would love to try it before I buy it.
          Please let me know.

      • Cindy says:

        Hi Natasha,
        I am new to this blog and really appreciate your opinions! Do you feel the Vega shakes are better then the PH 7.365 alkaline shakes? I can’t tolerate the ViSalus (it just rips my stomach up), but I love the taste! I am fearful of the sugar issue with ViSalus too. I want to go with safe, effective, organic, and good tasting. Your thoughts are appreciated.
        Thank you – Cindy

        • Natasha (Domestica) says:

          Hi Cindy!

          By first glance, the only questionable ingredient I found in PH 7.365 shake was guar gum (a thickening agent) but to be honest, guar gum is the least of my worries when it comes to most nutritional shakes. So, I’d say it’s worth a try! Also, Vega is just the one I prefer but there are plenty of other valid options out there. Vega is probably the most extreme option as your taste buds need to be pretty well trained (by having a regularly non-processed and clean diet) since it’s a plant-based protein that can seem grainy or not sweet enough to some people. I would try a sample packet of anything you do decide to try — Sun Warrior is another popular one.

    • Kathy Guerrero says:

      Wall Street Journal front page last year. MLM’s are the smart business way of the future. I think they might know a thing or two about business models.

  17. Thomas Then says:

    This feed is really great! Glad to see there are some people that are educated on here!! I actually was uneducated at one point and was blinded by the light of Visalus’s hype! I will say I saw many great results with the products but didn’t realize the harm that could of been being caused…We quickly became six figure earners in the company and were very excited!! Unfortunately after learning of some of the dangers associated with product we could no longer stand behind it! Fortunately we were invited to be part of an amazing company called Ocean Avenue that has true integrity and science behind their natural products! They have some of the best products I have ever seen and are already changing live the right way! Please visit the attached link and give me your feedback on these products http://www.myoave.com/shapeup/WAVNutritionLine.aspx . One thing I did learn about why so many products have sucralose is because they have to cover up the bitter taste of poor protien sources and other additives. Ocean Avenue uses the absolute best source of undenatured whey which promotes production of Glutathione in the body that does not require the use of artificial sweeteners! We are very excited about growing a business with a truly remarkable product and if anyone out there is looking to help us on our mission to educate the world on unsafe products we would love to help you achieve success. Unfortunately some companies are all about making a buck! We feel truly blessed to be part of a company that can create great financial success while promoting a true high quality product! You can contact me directly with any questions at dynamicwealthllc@gmail.com. I look forward to seeing everyone’s feedback!

    If anyone want info on our formulator go to http://www.oceanavenue.com/chief-science-officer

    If you are interested in joining us as founding distributors of this company please contact me through the attached email. This is a truly remarkable opportunity to help others and create a great additional income stream for your family! We are working directly with the owners of the company to launch new marketplaces.


    • Teresa Hagerman says:

      I respect your choice, Thomas, but please refrain from assuming we are all out for making a quick buck. I do not promote Visalus because of the money, nor do I disrespect anyone’s choices. Eating 100% organic and natural is always best, as this blog points out, and it is up to each of us to do our own research and support our statements with scientific proof. I truly believe when a product or idea is the best one, those who support it do not feel the need to bash others. Best wishes to you!

  18. cristy says:

    I previously used Visalus but had no issues. I am considering the switch to Vega, but noticed that they have a high level of sodium. Is that not a concern for you?

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Hi Cristy,

      Good question! I checked my Vega labels and yes, the Protein Powder has a relatively high level of sodium (22% RDI in a serving). This is because it’s an after workout shake meant to restore your electrolyte levels. After a sweaty workout, our body NEEDS higher levels of sodium to replace the fluids (sodium helps our body retain the water we drink).

      That said, a single serving of the protein powder is also 26g of protein. Some research shows that women can’t absorb more than 20g of protein at a time so I started halving my protein shakes (half a scoop is 13g of protein) for my post-workout shakes. Men are really the only ones that need 26g of protein after a workout! This also reduces the sodium intake — again, the protein powder is really meant for after a workout.

      That said, if you were using something like Visalus, that’s more of a meal replacement shake, not a protein powder. And there are plenty of Vega substitutes that have very low sodium levels (like their All-In-One Nutritional Shake). There are also some great comments from readers here in this thread with other companies who seem to have good products. After researching them all, I’ve been intrigued by Essante and Ocean Avenue. I would also suggest Amazing Grass as a meal replacement shake — they have great products (but just don’t taste as good as Vega, IMO!).

  19. Ronda Rhodes says:

    what a joke, shooting down VISalus to bring your product up…wake up lady, VISalus is changing lives around the world…if you can’t appreciate that obesity rates are dropping and helping others due to the 90 day challenge regardless of what someone chooses to help them. Your 2cents does’nt change the revolution going on around the world…if you can’t beat them you should join them.

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      I don’t expect you to read the comments here but Ronda, it’s already been said that I have no affiliation with Vega! I chuckle every time someone thinks I’m pushing my own product — I only WISH I was affiliated with them — maybe I’d get a discount!! 🙂

    • itsfranco says:

      obesity rates dropping… have you started to count how many people have died because their cancer flared up… while on visalus? I guess it’s all about looking good and playing the part. Sad.

  20. Ronda Rhodes says:

    VISalus changed my life…i suffer from Crohns disease, after 4 days on the product my bowels were regulated, i continued throughout my 1st. 90 day Challenge by adding one shake a day and got off 2 major perscriptions..got rid of 15 lbs. of sluggish weight, got my energy back to be able to exercise again with no pain…all my blood work has improved, Kaiser specialist say’s this is working for you, checked all ingrediants and gave it a thumbs up! Thank You VISalus for helping change my life 🙂 It may not be for everyone, yet it was the answer for me and thousands of other people 🙂 On my 3rd Challenge would’nt change a thing!

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Hi Ronda — I know how debilitating Crohns can be. Since sugars feed the intestinal bacteria that produces flare-ups in Crohns, I also understand how the sucralose in Visalus shakes would regulate your bowels. Although it’s “the lesser of two evils” — since there is other damage to be done by daily sucralose ingestion — I understand how you would be willing to risk that after having such a difficult condition as Crohns.

      Have you researched the Specific Carbohydrate Diet? My friends and family members with digestive disorders (including Crohns) have all seen their symptoms disappear by following it. My friend with Crohns just got his follow-up colonoscopy done (after three months on the diet with no cheating) and saw dramatic improvements. Plus, his symptoms have disappeared completely. The diet is strict but if it means healing your intestines and living a normal life, I think it’s worth it!

    • Sandra says:

      Hi Ronda,
      I have IBS, and Visalus helped me too as well. I am not slave to bathrooms, cramps, gas, malnutrition, joint pain etc.
      I know how happy you feel as I feel the same way.
      Love my shakes
      Vi rocks 🙂

  21. Kathy Judd Sivers says:

    I am really saddened and really taken back by your blog. After reading this I have to remind myself that you are just a blogger with an opinion. You are not an expert. Sadly, had I come across your post prior to trying Visalus I may have been swayed by your skewed “opinion”. Thank God I did not. Prior to 2000 I was healthy, I ate well, ate clean, and was the epitome of fitness and a life of dance.

    In 2000, and in 2001 I was in horrible car accidents. Those led to back surgery, and a number of procedures. NOTHING worked. I could not walk around a Costco without leaning on a cart. I had to get a walker. I had to cook dinner from an office chair. I had to crawl around my home just to pick up after my children. I was told not to have anymore kids because I would risk being completely immobile. My next step to solve my pain was spinal fusion. So for the past 10 years I had suffered through everything to attempt to get my life back. I tried EVERYTHING that had even a smidge of hope and NOTHING worked. Not a Vegan diet, not a Vegetarian diet, not a inflammation diet, not Yoga, not acupuncture, not chiropractic. All of things helped me to function, but did not solve my issues and give me my fit life back. Nothing. In 2011 I found Visalus and gave it a try. Within a week ALL of my inflammation pain, sciatica pain, muscle spasms, charlie horses, numbness, and misery was GONE. The ONLY thing I changed was added Visalus to my daily routine. This is not a medical claim, this is my personal testimony.

    Now 15 months later I no longer suffer from Migraines, I no longer take pain medicine of any kind, I donated my walker to Goodwill,

    I have ran 70 miles in 4 weeks!!!!!! I’ve never done that in my life!

    I have gone from a size 18/20- 11/12, I have not lost any weight on a scale, but my body is completely transformed. My body has shed the unnecessary fat and built lean muscle. And YES, I am a promoter of Visalus. Who in their right mind would not pursue being apart of an organization that is changing the face of america and giving people hope again, and gave me my life back. Aside from my own experience, I have personally witnessed hundreds of lives transformed from this amazing company. I encourage you to improve your researching tactics, look into the company, the culture, the belief system and the people that are involved. For those of you reading this blog, educate yourself, try things yourself. Look for Money back guarantees, you have nothing to lose. Everyone is different, everyone will respond differently. Do not “read” the hype. Test it yourself. If they are not confident with their own products enough to offer you your money back then don’t take the risk. I have personally given away countless amounts just to gift someone with better health. I personally do not benefit if you try Visalus unless you do so from me. I don’t care if you get it free, pay for it, who you get it from, but if you try it and it gives you even 10% of the benefit I have gotten, your life will be forever changed!

    For the blogger that posted all of this…SHAME on you for forcing your opinions about a product on the masses. Had I listened to you and your views based upon stuff you have read, my life would still be a prison within my body and my children would still be suffering along with me. All of the people who have their lives back and are defeating obesity and poor health would still be suffering. I will not merit your comments by responding any of your claims.

    Never argue with stupid people,

    they will drag you down to their level

    and then beat you with experience.

    ~Mark Twain

    Kathy Judd Sivers

    • Mark Blanton says:

      Kathy and Ronda, thank u for ur testimonies…. Stories like these are also the reason why I promote the #2 weight loss company in N. America (we only trail to Weight Watchers)! U guys freakin rock 🙂

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Hi Kathy! I’m glad you found something that worked for you — even if it’s something I wouldn’t personally put in my body. I don’t doubt that people have had great results with Visalus — I just hope that it’s not doing longterm damage that you don’t know about yet (as sucralose has been known to do). Especially since it’s something people ingest every single day (which I don’t suggest someone should do with any supplement of ANY kind).

      As for me being stupid…well, I’m not going to reject your comment even though you’re dangerously nearing my blog’s line of etiquette (we are kind to each other in here, thank you!). But consider yourself warned, please.

      Until a Visalus supporter can prove to me that sucralose is not harmful, that cheap vegetable oils are healthy, or that the “natural and artificial flavors” has been proven to not be MSG — I’ll stick to my more natural supplements. So far, none of you have been able to come even close to disproving any of my claims. I will trust my health to my own research — not a pharmacist, not a naturopathic practitioner, or any other doctor for that matter! I rely on these professionals to guide me but I do my own research and make my own informed decisions. It’s my body, not theirs!

      • itsfranco says:

        Replying with “stories” is the mlm way. Powerfully “hypnotic” language. But notice how belligerently rude they get just because someone has a passion flowing in another direction. Name calling, labeling… really trying to “push that pin rank” on others… as if success with a mlm comp plan build out is a sign of “wisdom”… To each their own, but this is exactly why so many laugh and stay away from anything having to do with the “passions” of mlm blindness. There is a reason many “lose their family” over this stuff.

  22. itsfranco says:

    Thanks for the post Natasha, I appreciate it. I was on the shakes from December to October. I lost 40 pounds in that time and was throwing up the visalus “gang sign” all over the place… however, since the very beginning, I was also getting migraines. I have never had a migraine in my life. I was drinking lots of water (like I have for over 25 years).

    I also had “never before had” digestive problems… and being trained in the medical field (which is not saying much at all btw) and widely read in health and wellness, I knew my body was trying to tell me something.

    But to be absolutely honest, the comp plan was telling me something else. And I believe that’s the issue with many “health and wellness” mlms… the comp plan and company “marketing” culture drowns out every last string of common sense and rational thinking you might have… cause you want to build that team and fund that fantasy life they cry about on stage… the one where you sacrifice EVERYTHING to get big checks (with lots of fine print on the back of them)… and you put your whole existence on perpetual hold as you build this just like any other rat race thing you do in life. You become a cog in their wheel… and pressure is used “brilliantly” to keep you in line.

    Like a good old fashioned “fire and brim stone” church… “if you ain’t with us, you’re against us and you can rot in hell” kind of philosophy…

    Health is NOT the primary focus.

    MARKETING and PROMOTION and challenge parties are.

    I just listened to my body and NO BODY is going to warn you for so long that it just can’t get used to
    a “new product”…. nothing ever warned me this much. And if your body needs this type of warning…

    You probably should not be so attached to the product anyway.

    MLM… it’s actually a great concept to help normal people create their own financial power. It really is.

    I just hope they did it ANYWHERE other than the “health and wellness” label because so much is put on the back burner and “spun” in order to let the comp plan and the “culture” live on… but hey, look at some of these comments… that’s some powerful psychology to have people so passionately defend something so questionable… my only question… how much passion would there be in this “product” without the comp plan.

    I’m done.

    That’s my peace and I spoke it because I’m free.

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Thanks, Franco. I definitely wasn’t expecting such a violent response to this post when I wrote it! But it’s good to hear both sides of the story and I find that interesting about this comment thread.

      I agree that MLM’s can really get people to believe anything. We are all so motivated by greed (see my most recent post about my 2013 Life Resolution to fight that social current!).

      Good for you for listening to your body and seeing past the scale’s response – that’s not easy. Just like I said before, skinny does not equal healthy! Lots of skinny people die of cancer. 😦

      • Kathy Judd Sivers says:

        My comments were not intended to be rude. It is obvious you believe what you do and nothing I say or do will change it. I am extremely health conscious and agree with most of your info about fats, skinny not meaning cancer free etc. My life was changed drastically by the Visalus products. Tbereforr I will take it indefinitely for the freedom it gives my body. I have not once bashed any other product as I believe there is something for everyone. I have a number of customers that have auto immune deficiencies that could not take the products you recommend. This works for them. My frustration is with how your post reads calling the produc toxic. As for the gentleman that was in Visalus, ive seen more heart and more humanity in this one company than I have in all my years in corp America. Yet you still support those companies by buying their products. I cannot merit anymore of this blog with my participation. Best of luck to you and your readers. I wish them all Life, Health, and Prosperity.


    • Matt Koshko (@mattkoshko) says:

      …I love your comment, Franco. You put things in to clear perspective, exactly what happened with me. I got sucked in to the ViSalus marketing. For about a year I said “No, the ingredients scare me…” but then I got pitched again, hooked in to the opportunity, and went for it. About 4 months later I said “What am I doing?!” because I was NOT passionate about the products, despite my father losing about 6 lbs in a month from the shakes.

      My philosophy was so much further ahead than ViSalus’ as I was eating Organic. Yup. How could I possibly get involved with ViSalus? The opportunity, the shiny car…but also to help my dad among other people. Unfortunately I was playing games with myself as I knew the product ingredients were (and are) questionable, to say it nicely. No amount of money is worth risking health, and when I watched my father drink the shakes a few times, I asked him if he would accept my apology for not finding a solution that I firmly believed in AND approved. Heck, I had some allergic reaction to the shakes myself and couldn’t drink them.

      Do I think MLM, Network Marketing, or Direct to Consumer is a powerful way for companies to share their products and services? Absolutely. More companies should go that way, but when a company doesn’t lead with outstanding products using ingredients from Organic sources and really pushes the marketing/opportunity side…there’s a problem. And of course it’s not just ViSalus but they’ve taken the spotlight.

      I moved to an Organic, chemical-free company. It’s not nearly the sexy appeal that ViSalus has but at least I know I’m giving people truly chemical-free products, giving people safe products to take back their health. It’s not only an awesome feeling, it’s the way we should be living.

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Just read the label! Their ingredients/labels are posted on their website. It took me all of three clicks to see a disgusting label full of processed and artificial ingredients — and TONS of sugars. Google the ingredients you don’t understand fully and you’ll get your answer.

  23. Erica says:

    I was suckered into this product and I completely regret it. I was on it for 4 days and had an excruciating headache the entire time. Headaches so bad they would make me vomit. It made me feel absolutely terrible.

  24. Michelle R. says:

    Wow I wish I had read all of this before I had made my purchase last week. I started Visalus on Friday, and within hours I was in the bathroom. Almost didn’t make it. I suffer from chronic migraines as it is, so I can’t really link my headache today to this product. I asked my friend I bought the product from and was told it is just my body getting used to healthy things, as I don’t really lead a healthy lifestyle. These are the reasons I started the Vi challenge.

    I have hypothyroidism, I was told this could improve possibly with the health benefits of Visalus. Although I read a comment earlier not to take this product if diagnosed with a thyroid disorder. Can someone explain this to me please?

    I also have a severe skin condition called lichen planus, It is an auto immune inflammatory skin condition that leaves me horribly itchy and miserable, I have it all over my body chest to feet. I heard about how Vi had helped someone who had this skin condition through a friend, and decided what the heck.

    I also suffer from some form of IBD, not exactly sure exactly what my intestinal issues are just yet, I have my procedures to find out in about a month. More than likely according to my GI, I have ulcerative colitis, but not sure just yet. And of course I was told get healthy, get your shakes it will help.

    My main reason for REALLY wanting to try this was the promoting from my friends, I love them dearly and respect their opinions as they have had wonderful experiences with this product, but neither have the issues I have. They know about my issues and both have assured me I would benefit from this product. I was told about the energy I would get, and feel better etc. Energy is something I could use, as I take medications GALORE and most make me tired. I take thyroid meds, depression meds, migraine meds, I am now on steroids for my skin condition, and a few other things. All in all I take around 10 pills a day… and those aren’t including my as needed meds, such as my pain killers, or anxiety medication

    I have NO real desire to promote this product as I am not a people person to be honest. I am now more concerned with reading comments (and not just on this blog, I looked around today) about how people with my issues shouldn’t take this product. Got me thinking now… I know my IBD can be treated, and possibly cured, but I am forever with my thyroid being messed up and a couple other things I take medication for. Any and all comments and advice/feedback ANYTHING is greatly appreciated!

    P.S I did notice when I was ordering the product that I couldn’t find an ingredients page… I found it odd, but figured oh well, can’t be that bad when it’s so popular and I see it working great for different people who don’t know each other. One friend was already a health freak, and the other was moderate about her health.

    • Mark Blanton says:

      Michelle, the best way to get the true information on our products and the had issue u are experiencing is to go onto YouTube and search for videos by Dr Cheryl Townsley and our very own Audrey Sommerfeld. If u search “Scientific Questions about ViSalus products with Audrey Sommerfeld,” she explains our ingredients… Anytime people rely on a blog that promotes another company, they are naturally going to bash us because we are the best! #2 in sales in US and Canada only to Weight Watchers in 2012… It’s not because of our “marketing scheme” as people have mentioned… It’s because we have soooo many customers (who aren’t promoters) having success on the products. They keep bashing sucralose but everybody has said for years that “Splenda is better for ur body than sugar.”

      The prebiotics and fiber (5grams) are helping ur digestive tract… The shakes do not affect thyroid meds. If taking our ViPak, you would need to wait and take it 4 hours after the Synthroid or whichever meds u are on. I have personal customers with no thyroid (surgically removed) and more with thyroid issues that have had major success with their health and weight loss… Don’t take my word for it (I’m a cop that knows little about nutrition, not a nurse or a Dr) but go check out the vids on YouTube for yourself. Hope u have success with whatever journey u choose!

      • Natasha (Domestica) says:

        Mark, I really appreciate your “other side of the coin” arguments but I’m only going to say this one more time: You keep accusing me of “promoting” another company (i.e. Vega) which insinuates that I’m accepting financial remuneration from them (which would give me a bias reason to expose Visalus’ poor ingredients). This is just not the case and is completely false. Any endorsement I have given for other products is based on science, legitimate research, and personal experience; I receive no financial gain of any kind. I don’t want the conversation to be skewed with misconception so take this as a final warning. I really don’t want to ban you from making comments because I appreciate your side of the story…but we don’t need any accusatory finger-pointing.

        As for the videos from Dr. Cheryl Townsley — there are plenty of doctors who get paid to endorse products and this absolutely presents a conflict of interest. Any educated person knows that there are enough “studies” out there to back up pretty much anything so having a doctor who is paid by Visalus come up with research that “fits” doesn’t necessarily prove anything. You seem to be very opinionated about how awful it is that I would be paid by Vega to “bash” Visalus and yet you are promoting your very own “paid” spokesperson! Pot calling the kettle black, no?

        • Mark Blanton says:

          I am admittedly a promoter of ViSalus… However, I believe my comment said “any blog” and not this blog… There are several other blogs out there that are promoters of another company and bash us to try to make a sell. I did NOT incinuate that this was the one i was talking about. U assumed what I meant and i would imagine u know assuming can do.

          When ppl jump to the defensive, the police side of me calls that a guilty conscience… Just sayin’

          She said “I looked around today” and “not just on this blog” so maybe u need to read her post again before jumping in my case…

          As far as banning me, do what u gotta do to shut me up! If u decide to, plz make sure I quit getting email notifications from all of the posts that other promoters of other companies are putting on here. Quite honestly, I only look at the posts because they come to my phone! Thx

          • Natasha (Domestica) says:

            Although I wouldn’t say I have a guilty conscience (I’ll never feel bad about blowing the whistle on sucralose), I do understand where you’re coming from. When we feel passionately about something, it’s difficult to hear someone speak negatively about it. And it’s better to be passionate about something than wishy-washy! That’s part of why I appreciate your contributions to the discussion.

            You must be subscribed to the comments (i.e. you clicked “Notify me of follow-up comments via email” when you first commented)…if you want to remove yourself from that, there is an opt-out option at the bottom of every email you are sent. I didn’t expect this post to have so many comments so no offense would be taken if someone unsubscribed from the comment thread!

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Hi Michelle,

      The truth is, not even your doctor is going to give you good advice all the time. I have friends with digestive diseases (i.e. Crohn’s, Ulcerative Colitis) and their GI specialists keep telling them that what they eat doesn’t really matter. To a digestive disorder!! Thankfully, my friends have taken it upon themselves to find a way to heal and have all found the Specific Carbohydrate Diet to be the one that heals UC (and makes Crohn’s stop getting worse). I would highly recommend you look into that. You’re right that changing your diet is key to improving your conditions.

      I posted recently about SCD — you can see it here: https://fabulouslydomestic.com/2012/12/17/the-danger-of-sugar-can-we-live-without-it/

      Good luck!

  25. jrcope79 says:

    I’m also a ViSalus lover! At first, I questioned the Sucralose. Dr. Sommerfield has been asked about it many times and has very good youtube videos about why they use it. Basically, it’s FDA approved, and Stevia is not, yet. She said that if Stevia becomes FDA appoved then they would gladly switch over. Also, Sucralose is an ingredient, but, it’s such a minuscule amount it’s really not worth arguing about. i’ll have to check again, but, I think it’s something like you have to consume 38 bags of ViSalus (that’s 1140 shakes) to have enough Sucralose to equal ONE of the little packets that come on your table at a restaurant. So, is that really worth the argument? not really! As for the “fairty tale pay plan” that someone had mentioned I’m not sure what you’re talking about. Talk to the 1000’s and 1000’s of us that are making money and have earned out BMW bonuses and tell them it’s a fairy tale! So, being an informed ViSalus user, it’s easy to see the holes in this blog post. I’ll stick with the (awesome) Vi-life! 🙂

    • jrcope79 says:

      oh, and you can easily find the ingredient list by a simple google search (It’s also on their website as well as promoters’ websites). That’s how I found this blog.

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Sorry but you are misinformed. Stevia has been approved by the federal Food and Drug Administration (FDA) granted Generally Recognized as Safe (GRAS) since 2008.

      But stevia costs more than sucralose so I understand why Visalus wouldn’t want to make the switch.

      As for the ingredients list, I am technologically-savvy and spent 20 minutes searching the well-marketed Visalus website but to no avail.

      • T.S. says:

        Actually in regards to Stevia….according to the FDA “FDA has not permitted the use of whole-leaf Stevia or crude Stevia extracts because these substances have not been approved for use as a food additive. FDA does not consider their use in food to be GRAS in light of reports in the literature that raise concerns about the use of these substances. Among these concerns are control of blood sugar and effects on the reproductive, cardiovascular, and renal systems. Food additives and GRAS affirmation petition or pre-petition submissions for the use of such substances that FDA has received in the past have not contained the data and information necessary to establish the safe use of these substances as ingredients in food.” Page Last Updated: 04/04/2012

        Source: http://www.fda.gov/AboutFDA/Transparency/Basics/ucm214864.htm

  26. Barbara Dodds says:

    Hey I just ran across this protein powder while looking for coconut oil: http://www.iherb.com/Nutiva-Organic-Hemp-Protein-Hi-Fiber-30-oz-851-g/9622. What is your opinion on this? I am trying to find a quality protein as doc says I need more protein (don’t care much for meat). I bought Visalus but had this column brought to my attention. I had reservations about the soy but was assured it was nonGMO. Wasn’t aware of the sucralose though and I try my best to stay away from artificial sweeteners.

    • Mark Blanton says:

      There is such a small amount of sucralose in the Visalus shakes that its not even an issue….. .03 mg per serving and a serving size is just over 26g. I agree with jrcope79 that this shouldn’t even be an issue. Two shakes per day for approx one year equals a one gram pack of Splenda that a lot of ppl put in their coffee. The proprietary Tri-Sorb blend with the Non-GMO soy is the best protein blend u are going to find!

      • Natasha (Domestica) says:

        .03 mg of arsenic is still .03 mg of arsenic. You are underestimating the power of neurotoxins in believing that a trace amount isn’t enough to harm you. It is.

        Sure, people who use packets of Splenda are worse of…but that doesn’t cleanse Visalus of its sins.

        I’m all for non-GMO products but I don’t think soy is healthy in ANY form other than fermented. There is plenty of research proving this. We all think we should eat soy because “the Asians do” and look how healthy they are! But they only eat FERMENTED soy…a HUGE difference from the processed soy we use in America, including any protein blend.

        • Mark Blanton says:

          For u to compare Sucralose to arsenic just proves that there’s no point in debating with u any longer…. If sucralose was bad, it wouldn’t be as widely accepted as Splenda all over America… I feel bad for the people on here that take ur advice and give it any weight at all! It may not be perfect…. But, what is? It’s been a lot better for me than all the sugar I used to eat and drink. Since it is passed thru our system undigested, ur concerns are invalidated and downright comical! Whatever

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Hi Barbara,

      I think Nutiva’s organic hemp protein is a good option — it’s organic, it’s 100% hemp protein (NOTHING ELSE), and they don’t use petroleum solvents (like hexane, similar to gasoline) to process the protein — most non-organic soy proteins use this process.

      That said, I have tried hemp protein and didn’t like the taste. I also seemed to have a difficult time digesting it but that might be because my body has a hard time digesting grains and you might be totally fine. It is definitely worth a try but again, being that it’s 100% hemp protein (with nothing else added), it’s going to taste gross and you’ll need to create your own protein shake concoction (i.e. with bananas, almond milk, etc).

      • Barbara Dodds says:

        My doc has told me I need more protein. Is there a protein shake you do recommend since you seem to know way more about this than I do? I don’t like the taste of any that I have tried, including the ViSalus, so I feel sure that if you say the hemp is gross, I probably wouldn’t like it either. Also thanks so much for the info.

        • Natasha (Domestica) says:

          Hi Barbara,

          I personally use Vega protein powder and find the chocolate one the best tasting. But I should say that if you’re used to eating a typical North American diet, you may have a hard time adjusting to any of the healthy protein powders on the market. Our taste buds need to recalibrate when we start introducing more REAL food into our diets. But if you’re already used to eating clean, you may really like the Vega chocolate Sport Protein. It has 26 g of vegan plant-based proteins (no soy) and no artificial fillers or sweeteners. You can buy it at Whole Foods, any health food store, or online.

  27. TJ says:

    Thank you for your information and well researched blog. I started using ViSalus over 1 1/2 months ago. I recently went to the doctor for normal check up and my blood pressure was very high. I had been having more headaches in the past few weeks also. Now that I look at the timeline of when I started drinking the shakes and when I started feeling horrible, it all falls into place. I stopped the shakes for several days and I felt great. My blood pressure was down and my headaches subsided. Not to mention I was following the plan as directed, eating my healthy meal and getting cardio in my schedule, I never lost any weight. Not a single pound. I must say I will not continue this “weight loss” plan.

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Thanks for sharing TJ. I’m glad you were able to discover the cause of your ailments! I truly believe that reducing calories, increasing exercise, and learning more about what it means to eat REAL food, is all the “challenge” you need in getting truly healthy!

  28. Chris Burpee (@ChrisBurpee) says:

    Message From ViSalus: Why we use Sucralose (Splenda)?

    “We have 0.03 g of sucralose per serving of shake.

    We use sucralose for taste, and also to keep our products diabetic friendly. It is unfortunate that there is so much confusion and misinformation about sweeteners. Sweeteners have received bad press, primarily because of aspartame, which degrades when heated, and can taste bad. Sucralose has been found safe both in hot and cold applications, and has had over 110 peer reviewed studies completed. This is why Sucralose has been approved by over 80 countries globally, and has even been approved by the WHO (World Health Organization). I like to say that many people feel the FDA approved drugs too easily (i.e. Vioxx, Phen Phen), so that if you trust other countries more (several globally are more stringent), then looking abroad is a good benchmark as well. We use a very small 0.03 grams per serving, which is about 1/3 of the amount in a diet cola or about a third of a Spelnda single serve packet.

    To put that into context…our shake is 99.9% natural by weight! A serving of shake is 26grams, so you can see .03 divided by 26…it’s a tiny amount.

    A key point of confusion is on ‘chlorides’. The sugar molecule is attached to a chloride, and then people think that means chlorine like in a pool. This makes me smile, because it is part of that internet confusion.

    Chlorides are found in table salt or sea salt as sodium chloride. It is also found in many vegetables. Foods with higher amounts of chloride include seaweed, rye, tomatoes, lettuce, celery, and olives. Chloride is needed to keep the proper balance of body fluids. It is an essential part of digestive (stomach) juices.

    We know that several people would prefer we use Stevia or Xylitol because they are natural. Xylitol is a natural sugar alcohol. Unfortunately it causes diarrhea in approximately 20% of the population! To get the same amount of sweetness in Neuro, we would need about 1 tablespoon, which can be toxic or fatal to a 40 pound dog. It also has not been approved globally.

    Stevia is a sweetener derived from a plant. It has only recently been approved in the U.S., and is still in process of being reviewed global, and some scientists are asking for more studies on high doses of stevia on the liver. The manufacturers of Stevia have recently published some safety data, and many countries are now re-looking it as a sweetener. It does impart a licorice type flavor and a bit of an aftertaste, that some people do not like. We have been trying to work with stevia in some new formulations, but are struggling to make them taste good.

    I’ve been asked a lot about agave recently. Agave is about 90% fructose, which is similar to high fructose syrup. Fructose has many properties but one bad one is that it can (in certain doses) increase appetite and this is exactly opposite of what we want in a weight management product.

    We do strive to make our formulas as natural as possible, while balancing taste, texture, safety, efficacy and stability. We are looking at some promising natural sweeteners coming on the market (there is one from Japan that is very promising). Our hope is that we will be able to replace sucralose to alleviate those concerns, but for now have not found a suitable substitute that tastes as good, has as much research, and has as much global approval.
    In terms of things being ‘safer’ because they are natural, is not always true. Consider mushrooms. Many are medicinal and healing, but some are plain toxic. So natural is great, but we really need to ask about safety and dosage too.”

    I hope that helps
    Product Mgmt. Team

    • Mark Blanton says:

      Thx for posting this Chris! I posted a similar response from them but it never made it to this forum. Idk if it was due to having website links attached to it or not… But, Thx for putting the TRUTH on here about our products!

      • steph says:

        I still think Visalus is not a good product, Its very low in protein, I think 12 percent per serving? So what makes up the difference? Cheap fillers! Take away the MLM, and the BMW and guess what? No one would know Visalus exsists! Now that’s a fact! I am sorry to be so harsh. Real food, and. Exercise it what its all about, not a shake. People do not need this, and soy is not good to ingest in this form for long time periods.

        • Mark Blanton says:

          70% of ViSalus production is customers… Not promoters! The rest of our shake is good nutrition, not fillers… I have a video of the nutrition on my YouTube channel at “mtblantonjr”… We promote exercise, proper diet, and nutrition… The sad reality is that a lot of people will not do it any other way (all the questions about other products is proof of that). You apparently haven’t seen our New Challenge and the focus of it…

          If u close the doors of Wal Mart and all the huge money they have made or if u close down the female makeup companies (not naming names), the “Starter” clothing brand or the names if their makeups would never be known by anybody nor would they exist either. U tell me one company in any arena (MLM or not) that hasn’t made some profit off of their products that they sell. The only difference in MLM and conventional companies is that we decide what we make instead of some “boss” signing our checks…

          Our focus is on customers and getting people healthy! Not the BMWs or paychecks, fyi! 🙂

          • Shorty says:

            Mark so just read your comment about sucralose… And funny story…. 0.03 thats for the whole bag? so divided by 26 is something like 0.000000000000000000000000003. As I was reading that I was chewing on my gum Dentyne. And curiosity got me. I looked at the back and seen sucralose 0.03 and that is per piece!! So the fact is by chewing on this gum I am actually getting more sucralose then if i were to drink a visalus shake! Ain’t that crazy!!! I understand that for everyone person who likes a product there will always be 10 people who don’t… And thats cool . to each thier own!! Sucralose was a concern but not now! Thanks Mark. Think I will give it a shot now!
            Someone also talked about the protien levels being too low. I learned that the body can only absorb a certain amount and anything above that level may not be so good. So pretty much like expensive pee lol.. 12 twice a day seems like a good amount to me.

          • steph says:

            I understand that all of you seling this product will defend it to the end! Its what MLM companies teach you! I do like that Visalus is incorporating healthy, teaching people better life styles, this is positive! I just HATE seeing people post things on facebook, “lost another 5 lbs this week, no cardio, just two shakes a day! This is not sustainable weight loss or healthy, and most of your clients do this. I also have a problem with your soy protein source. Please don’t waste your time defending this one, I know what I’m talking about. The only healthy soy is soy that has been fermented! Your soy is going to have disasterous health consequenses for thoses who use long term! End of storey, I hope people see through all this hype, and say NO to the mlm and BMW, and just realize they can loose weight by 80 diet 20 percent exercise! YOU DONT NEED TO SPEND MONEY ON A SHAKE! The main beneficiary is the BMW dealership here. Its really a shame shake companies sell people something they don’t need!

          • Natasha (Domestica) says:

            Shorty, you read Mark’s comment incorrectly. There is .03g of sucralose (still enough to act as a neurotoxin and cause headaches, migraines, brain “fuzziness”, eye sight problems, etc) in EACH serving. That is each shake, not each bag.

          • Natasha (Domestica) says:

            And well said, Steph! 80/20 is the key. Bragging about losing weight from shakes instead of ACTUAL dedication and hard work means the person is begging to gain all that weight back. Their poor eating habits will most likely return and they haven’t learned a thing about what it means to be truly healthy. All they’ve learned is how to be a yo-yo dieter. 😦

          • Mark Blanton says:

            Good job Shorty for doing your own research and not relying on this mis information. It is .03 per serving/shake. However, that is still a very low amount. Check out Chris Burpee’s comment above for the true explanation…

            12 grams of Tri Sorb blend protein (with Non-GMO soy where the isoflavones have been removed thru a steaming process) is all that ur body needs. It’s quality vs. quantity.

            Steph, MLM haven’t taught me to defend anything!! I was just as skeptical as possible when introduced to this product. I had NO interest in the “pyramid” stuff in the beginning. Once i saw results, people started asking and I figured “why not? Hell, it worked for me” I was overweight for the first time in my life. This product helped me drop 20 lbs and taught me how to eat better and have lasting results by working out.

            As I said before, i agree with the working out and actice lifestyle. It has given me that chance again and now I’m hitting the gym regularly. However, I have customers that could not work out due to hip/knee issues. As a couple, they have lost a combined 105 lbs and have kept it off since Dec. 2011…..

            Unfortunately, exercise isn’t for everybody! If it was, none of the companies in this genre would be here. But if we can knock a dent in the 67% obesity problem and teach them how to keep it off by proper diet and motivating them to get off the couch, I’m in!

            I realize that some of our promoters only talk about BMWs and paychecks! That is also unfortunate because that is not what the company focuses on. Ppl will see thru those people eventually!

          • Ronda Rhodes says:

            Hi Mark, I’m kind of baffled how this blog has went in so many directions, did you notice how the same people have heard the truth, and still keep beating the same drum? Also, and now the last blogs i read they don’t think>>>> ANYONE should even drink shakes???Than why are the same few people promoting a “Wellness Shake” at all? Of course we all don’t drink shakes all day and we do eat healthy foods. The “90 day Challenge” has dramatically changed OBESITY and gave hope & inspiration to get fit around the globe, how is this a bad thing, no matter what works for millions of people, if its a shake a day (any shake) or any weight loss program to maintain their weight, get off med’s, get energy, feel better, and live a healthier life :))

  29. Kathy says:

    I have used the visalus shakes for a year and kept off 45 pounds. I took the weight off without exercise, but have slowly become an exercise and fitness lover. I realized that I was just a thinner unfit person. the visalus culture is one of not just weight loss through their products, but challenging yourself every 90 days to accomplish a fitness or weight loss goal. I didn’t even own a bike, but I borrowed one, and trained for 90 days and rode my bike with my 24 yr old daughter after 90 days. It was an amazing experience. I have also done a half marathon. I NEVER would have done these things without the 90 Day Challenge. It is a great idea. And this company’s cofounders are so passionate about doing their part to end the obesity epidemic, it makes me proud to be part of a company with such heart for helping people get healthy. They make crazy good money? Yes, and so do the people who have invented medical equipment that saves lives, and CEOs of prescription drug companys that save lives. Get over it. This is an amazing company with an amazing product. I have started studying nutrition and am working on a degree because I have become so passionate about helping people lose weight and get off meds. There is SO much good coming from this company and this product that you should seriously rethink your hating. Our bodies process small amounts of toxins all the time without damage, and you are harping on something that has been approved all over the world? My nutrition professor warns people all the time that Nutrition is a new field and there will be internet bloggers promoting or ranting against foods and nutrition of which they know nothing about. SOy is one of them. There are dozens of bandwagon topics out there. Sadly, once a blogger has set themselves up as some kind of expert, people blindly believe all that they say. I guess not everyone can get a degree in nutrition and physiology to understand these complex issues, but it makes me crazy.

    • steph says:

      That is great that you found health and fitness! I am also very healthy and fit and I think its great when someone finds what they are looking for. I am healthy and fit because I eat real food, fruits, veg, lean meats. All I am saying is that you can have the same results with out drinking a shake. As for unfermented soy, I WILL STAY AWAY! To each is own, but I know what I am talking about and as more and more people become sick, you will hear about it. Soy in your shake is not healthy. This is not about hate at all, but opening your eyes to both sides of an issue. Yes, medical people make money, everyone makes money…blah blah blah. But I know for a fact if there was no mlm or bmw you never would have heard of Visalus! Is it wrong they make money, not at all, I like that thet promote fitness too, but i have been at coffee shops and over heard people teach others how to bring people in…Look around as there are other ways to spend your money. Seek out a non soy shake. Research the dangers of Visalus before you take the product, research any product first! As for jumping on what ever a blogger says, come on…..you jumped on a mlm company that sells expensive crap!

      • shorty says:

        Well I did it! Ordered my visalus shakes! Unlike some of you I actually did research! And unlike what you think! It is healthy! I suggest you not only research the ingredients but also research what those ingredients are and where they come from. I learned a lot by talking to some great people. Chatted with a human biochemist. That’s where I learned the most. Anyways I understand that someone will have a negative comment. But no matter what you say I will stay positive. So continue to be negative. And have a great day! Xo

        • Kathy says:

          Nice job Shorty. I know you will love it. You are smarter than the average bear. You don’t believe everything you read on any given blog.

        • steph says:

          Its not about being negative! People that join a MLM always feel the need to defend! Soy is not good, take a look at the solvents they use to denature it! Its all about health and fitness. YOU DO NOT NEED SHAKES TO BECOME HEALTHY AND FIT! SAVE YOUR MONEY. Please tell me what is negative about that? You saving money is positive. 3 meals a day and two snacks will give you far more nutrition than a PROCESSED soy shake. I am educated, and have lived a long, healthy life with out a weight loss shake. You do not need to buy into this, you can loose the weight and feel amazing with out this shake, thats all I am saying. This is my last post as i really don’t want to waste any more time talking about useless information from people selling products from this cult like company. By the wasy C-Reactive is not an indicator of heart disease, and reducing cholesterol is not proven! Everyone on here that buys this crap is brain washed by the company. Just eat food and exercise people!

      • Kathy says:

        Steph here is part of a response I recieved from one of the ViSalus scientists who helped to make the shakes. It is a silly statement to say that if there was no BMW or MLM I would never have heard of ViSalus. MLM is the business model the company chose. If they had chosen a different business model, I would have heard of it through ads, and I would spend my money, and the CEOs would be the only ones recieving a paycheck. Now I get mine for free and I get to share it with my friends and we all lose weight and get healthy together. You say that is a bad thing? ANd you have heard others talking about how to best get the word out about our great product? WHOAA that’s badddd. Are you completly unaware of the time and money that companies spend to get you to buy their stuff? And have any of your salesman friends ever gone on a business trip to a convention where other business people from around the country are all learning how to better get you to buy what they sell? It is how they sell their stuff. Come on Steph, MLM is a different business model. You aren’t looking so bright on this one.

        ” Of the concerns over soy, there are a few common ones. First, is referring to raw soybeans, that can contain a form of phytic acid that can block certain minerals absorption. However, that is based on massive consumption quantities, and of the raw soybean and only occurs in those animals that lack the digestive enzyme phytase. It is only an issue for people who consume those foods to get minerals in their diet, and in massive quantities. The issue is in developing countries, and may have a genetic basis as well because they are lacking the digestive enzyme (which can be supplemented and therefore alleviate the concern). It is not an issue for our products because of how we process the ingredients.

        Some people say only fermented soy is healthy. Fermentation of soy is done using bacteria and yeast, both of which add flavors and many bacterial concerns. As far as needing fermentation, that is a lie. Tofu is NOT fermented. Tofu is made without bacteria and is pure protein. If you want fermentation that is called SOY SAUCE or MISO. And we can’t use these since the protein content is destroyed.

        The isoflavones are removed through the cross-current membrane technology developed by a number of high-tech companies. This process is similar to making purified drinking water. No solvents are used. So is the process similar…well, fermentation destroys the isoflavones because bacteria actually feed on them; ultrafiltration just pulls them out. So I guess the end game is the same.

        The second common concern with soy are due to some of the components of soy, particularly the isoflavones genistein and dadzein which can affect and inhibit thyroid peroxidase which is necessary for the production of T3 and T4. Thus there is some evidence that it could lead to thryoid enlargement (Goiter) . Our soy has been processed to remove the isoflavones, so this is not an issue.

        A third common concern about soy is the effect it may have on estrogen levels in the body. This is again due to the isoflavones, which we have had removed. So this is a non-worry. We should note that many menopausal women do supplement with isoflavones, as it has been shown to help them experience fewer side effects of menopause.

        Lastly, our Soy is not genetically modified (it is non-GMO). Many people worry about genetically modified soy, and if any of the ingredients got altered in the breeding process. We use the most natural form we can get, that has not been genetically modified.

        We use soy because it is a complete protein, easily digested, can help the body lower cholesterol and c-reactive protein (an indicator of heart disease and inflammation), and helps build lean muscle equal to (if not slighly better than) whey. I am attaching an article on protein and sports nutrition, and the clinical showing how it helped build lean muscle.”

        • Mark Blanton says:

          Excellent job doing ur research Kathy! U are right! The only difference between MLM and infomercials is that we have the opportunity to earn some of the ad money normally reserved for infomercials or commercials… That is NOT what we are all about! We are making an effort to put a dent in obesity epidemic! Like I said before, we PROMOTE EXERCISE TOO… But, look around! If we can help somebody lose 10 lbs and give them energy they have never had before, maybe they will start exercising! Yall need to go to YouTube and search for “Eric Rose Visalus” and watch his first video about getting started (Prob Sept or Oct. 2011). He never exercised a day in his life UNTIL starting Vi and now he is 282 lbs down! ITS NOT JUST ABOUT A DAMN SHAKE!! Its about helping ppl get their life back! Regardless what product they use… As long as they do something to get them off the couch.

          As far as the coffee shop comment, we do have some ppl that are in this solely for the $$. Those ppls teams will see right thru them and quit….. Seen it happen! They will get what they deserve while the rest of us actually make a difference!

          • Natasha (Domestica) says:

            I agree — just like anything in life, there will always be people who give your cause a bad name.

            Although I appreciate what you’re saying about Visalus trying to fight the obesity epidemic, whether it’s Visalus or Vega or any other “Domestica-approved” supplement, I just don’t think taking the same thing every day is healthy. We can argue about the pros/cons of soy, sucralose or whatever else but at the end of the day, regardless of the ingredients, I just don’t think it wise to rely on the same man-made concoction every day. Even if I agree with all the ingredients.

            People need knowledge on how to eat real food and move their bodies well — unfortunately, a quick fix is usually more appealing to people who feel hopeless about their weight. Although I will say that a 90-day challenge is a great idea, my hope is that these people won’t rely on a supplement every day as the only way to losing more weight and/or keeping the weight off. Being a Visalus “customer for life”, as some people have indicated here, is what scares me!

          • Jan says:

            Mark….. you are so right! I get so tired of listening to people whinge and complain about not having enough income coming in……..hating their job……..being overweight, not having enough time etc and yet the minute you mention MLM……they run for cover. Are they really serious about changing their life, their weight, their everything? Once upon a time, I was just like them……now, I can honestly say that MLM has been the best investment I have ever made…..for my income, my health and my everything!!! However, it wouldn’t be the Visalus product that I would promote because…..in my opinion….. from my nutritional research……there are other weight loss programs I would prefer, that are available, including all the benefits of a serious business.

        • Ronda Rhodes says:

          What great infomation Kathy!!! This sum’s up alot of the back and forth questions on this blog….:) Thank You!

  30. steph says:

    Kathy: So you think I look not too bright! Give me a break! You have shown you true ignorance for sure. I don’t need to be sold ANY weight loos products, from a corporation, mlm marketing, or any one. I will agree that Visalus is doing well, people are so desparate to loose weight they will try anything. MY POINT is that you do NOT need expensive shakes, pills. Your not to bright if you can’t see that all you need to do is eat whole foods and exercise! It really is that simple!!! NO SHAKES NEEDED! THE BMW dealerships are laughing all the way to the bank on this one! Its unfortunte that people don’t understand the true impact your shakes are having on the acid- alkline balance of their blood chemisty. As for this blog, I’m out of here, don’t care to listen to VI promoters trying to sell something we don’t need!!!!!!!

    • Kathy says:

      Steph, it is not about the NEED, it is about what works for some and what works for others. If someone does better with a shake, then more power to them. I don’t put down my friends who lose weight with other products, or with diet and exercise. I am just glad they are finding something that works. I don’t believe any of the hype about visalus being unhealthy. Too much conflicting research. I know what my nutrition, physiology and biology textbooks have told me. It would be very difficult to get the amount of nutrition in one shake from one meal. And if you properly reseached the product you would know that they don’t use solvents in any of their processes.

      • steph says:

        Kathy, i have researched the product. I was introduced to this before it came to Canada, and let me tell you I saw $$$$ signs. I knew this would be big, I knew the money to be made here was good, it had not been launched in
        Canada. I know that weight loss is huge, people will buy into anything with a promise they may loose some weight. This does work for some, I agree. But, for the majority it is a short lived jo-jo promise. I did not want to be a part of this, even though I knew that I could make money, and lots of it! I can not deceive people. I know about health and nutrition. I do have to make reference to your claim about extraction. Please do not just listen to what Visalus, and their PAID researchers tell you.

        1. ViSalus states: “Our soy has been processed to remove the isoflavones, so this is not an issue.” It’s great that they removed the isoflavones… what might not be so great is the extraction method itself, which introduces aluminum and a host of other problematic issues into the equation. Can you tell me what extraction method do they use to remove the isoflavones?

        2.The main ingredient in ViSalus shakes is soy protein isolate. Why would they use an admitted waste product of the soy oil industry in shakes that are supposed to be good for you? The soy industry makes a profit off of selling this waste – AND, according to the FDA, soy protein isolate has not been given GRAS status (generally regarded as safe) and was actually DENIED GRAS status due to the concerns over lysinoalanine. The FDA did approve soy protein isolate for use in the production of cardboard boxes, however. But something tells me that wouldn’t be very comforting for MOST people, if they knew about it. So, I’m curious if the take ViSalus has on this is if it’s safe for cardboard boxes, it’s safe for human consumption?

        The reason I ask HOW they are extracting the isoflavones and WHY they are using soy protein isolate is for the following reasons:

        In order to remove the isoflavones 99% of the companies use Hexane. Hexane is a known neurotoxic petrochemical solvent used to produce oils, soy protein isolates or texturized soy protein (TVP) from soybeans.

        Hexane is a chemical solvent that is purified from crude oil. It has been identified as a toxic air contaminant and a greenhouse gas, and its release is monitored and regulated by the EPA. It is used in a variety of applications including as an ingredient in certain glues and as a specialized industrial cleaning agent. Of the millions of pounds of hexane that are produced annually, however, its major use is by the oilseed industry in its extraction of vegetable oils.

        There are two major methods for removing oil from vegetables like soybeans — expeller pressing or solvent extraction with hexane. Of these two methods, hexane extraction is the more complete and therefore more profitable and is preferred by large oilseed processors. Of the estimated 18.8 billion pounds of soybean oil produced in the U.S., well over 90% is extracted with hexane.

        In removing the oil from soybeans, the major by-product is defatted soy meal or flakes. This defatted soy can then be further processed to remove the non-protein fractions, yielding soy protein concentrate (70-90% protein) or soy protein isolate (90% or more protein). Given the availability and low cost of the starting materials, the vast majority of soy protein concentrate and isolate are made from hexane-extracted soy meal.

        This process is completed using aluminum equipment to produce the products, as well as alkaline soaking solutions or baths. Non hexane-extracted versions of these ingredients are currently available, BUT IN LIMITED QUANTITIES and at a substantially higher price.

        So, you see, just saying, “We removed the isoflavones, so there’s no problem there” doesn’t tell the whole truth by a LONG SHOT. Most people are COMPLETELY uninformed. They don’t know the right questions to ask and if you tell them, “Oh we removed the ‘bad stuff’” they happily smile and hand over their money and erroneously believe that they know what they’re talking about… all the while companies smile too – while raking in the profits.

  31. Kathy says:

    Natasha, I get that you believe it is a harmful product, but you might want to rethink the whole “the only RIGHT way to lose weight is by eating whole foods and exercise.” To dismiss someone elses weight loss journey is condescending. I am not sure that you feel that way about ALL other options, because this is the thread I landed on, but if so, you should understand that some of us need a different path to get us started. Many people find it difficult to just one day change their eating and moving habits without a dramatic outside source. I appreciate your “leave all the posts up” and be respectful while disagreeing attitude. Best to you.

    • Susan McGarry says:

      Here I am at the bottom after reading each and every comment and there is a “Whole Food” meal replacement out there its about doing your research and “finding it” and making sure no further damage is done to the body, I have struggled with my weight all my life and I would love your opinion on this list of ingredients and I should note it is an MLM company, however, a box of 10 meal replacements costs 39.99 in Canada and 29.99 USA, as mentioned its not 9.99 but you are getting quality ingredients please I hope from what you see here you can say that you now have found an MLM company that does provided a wonderful safe alternative meal replacement/shake! I love them and have lost 62 pounds! We have already had a number of folks switch but it does take family friends and blogs like this to find the right one don’t shoot the messenger!

      Mediteranean Wellness Shakes Vanilla and Chocolate

      Nutritional information ~per packet (56 g.) make with water NOT MILK

      Calories ……………………………………………………………………………………………. 240
      Total Fat …………………………………………………………………………………………… 8 g.
      Saturated Fat …………………………………………………………………………………….. 0.5 g.
      Total Carbohydrates …………………………………………………………………………… 20.5 g.
      Sugars ……………………………………………………………………………………………… 1.5 g.
      Dietary Fiber …………………………………………………………………………………….. 7 g.
      Protein ……………………………………………………………………………………………… 21 g.
      Vitamin A (as retinyl palminate with lemon grass) …………………………………. 2,000 I.U.
      Vitamin C (as sodium ascorbate & ascorbic acid with camu fruit & wolfberries) 19 mg.
      Vitamin D (as cholecalciferol with brewers yeast) …………………………………. 90 I.U.
      Vitamin E (as d-alpha-tocopheryl) ……………………………………………………….. 4.5 I.U.
      Vitamin B6 (as pyridoxine HCI with brown rice) …………………………………… 700 mcg.
      Thiamine (as thiamine mononitrate with brown rice) ……………………………… 700 mcg.
      Riboflavin (with brown rice) ……………………………………………………………….. 750 mcg.
      Niacin (as niacinamide with brown rice) ……………………………………………….. 11 mg.
      Folate (as folic acid with brown rice) ……………………………………………………. 110 mcg.

      400MG Calcuim (100% from Living Plants)

      Other ingredients:

      Protein Complex: Non-GMO vegetable Pea protein & non-GMO brown rice protein.
      Mediteranean Essential Fatty Acid blend: (containing Omega 3,6 fatty acids)
      Safflower oil complex, almond oil,flaxseed oil, grape seed oil, olive oil & sesame oil.
      Prebiotic & Enzyme blend: Fibersol-2 TM. (soluble fiber glucose polymer complex),
      bromelain, guar gum, gum acacia, inulin, lipase & protease.
      Ionic Plant Trace Mineral blend:(from ocean plant)
      Anti-Stress & Energy blend: Green tea leaf extract, passionflower (whole plant & flower),
      cinamon twig extract, greater galangal root extract, American ginseng root extract, apple pectin,
      Cayenne fruit, chamomile flower, citrus pectin, jujube fruit, lemon balm leaf, licorice root extract,
      Asian ginseng root extract, peppermint leaf, rhodiola root extract & mate leaf extract.
      Mediteranean Skin & Digestion blend: Olive leaf 4:1 extract, Artichoke leaf 4:1 extract,
      grape leaf extract, pomegranate fruit extract.
      Super Greens blend: Alfalfa leaf, asparagus spear extract, barley grass, bitter melon fruit extract,
      broccoli floret, Brussels sprouts leaf, Cabbage leaf, cauliflower floret, chlorella, mustard seed,
      nettle leaf, spirulina, natural & artificial flavours, gum blend (cellulose gum, xanthan gum &
      carrageenan), sea salt, silica, acesulfame, potassium, sucralose, stevia leaf extract.

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      I hear you, Kathy. And I’m totally in agreement. I think one of the most successful ways to lose weight is to take small steps in a healthier direction. Any clients I’ve had who insist on doing cold turkey major changes almost never succeed in the end. I don’t expect everyone to live as healthfully as I do but I try to encourage and direct people in taking the best small steps possible. 🙂

  32. Innocent Bystander says:

    Dr. Kaayla Daniel says the following (opinion):

    “But the soy in some of these drinks, especially Visalus, is different, right?! I mean, they go through extra processing (great word PROCESSING) to ensure the soy protein does not contain these anti-nutrients. Why, then, are we hearing so many reports of people experiencing the same health problems from these problems that are associated with other soy products?! Certainly organic soybeans are safer than GMO soybeans, as there are serious dangers to all GMO foods, soy, corn or whatever. GMO soy contains higher and more resistant levels of protease inhibitors, among other toxins. Whole soybeans are also better than soy protein insomuch as this will minimize some harmful processing methods, particularly the use of hexane to split the bean. It is also possible that some of the other processing methods might be gentler. For example, the process might involve alkaline baths with a lower pH than is used by some commercial companies. Gentler processing methods could conceivably result in lower levels of the toxins lysinalanines and nitrosamines.”

    “That said, I find it highly unlikely that this product – or the similarly hyped products — have removed the dangerous estrogenic isoflavones. Unless the companies use alcohol extraction, the isoflavones will not be removed. In fact these companies don’t want to remove the isoflavones because they all boast about their “health effects” and claim that their unique product somehow has all the benefits and none of the dangers of isoflavones. Saponins, which can bind with cholesterol and damage cell membranes will also be present in any soybean product that has not been alcohol extracted. Not surprisingly, these are marketed as healthy “all natural” cholesterol lowerers, bile acid reducers and cancer preventers and curers says Daniels”.



    • Kathy says:

      First of all, many of the symptoms associated with soy products are the same symptoms for other ailments too. One of my friends said she couldn’t use it because it made her heart race. Then she stopped using it, and realized it was something else and now she is fine with it. That happens a lot. People say “it gave me a headache” for a week. Then they realize later, after continuing to get headaches, that it was something else happening simultaneious to them starting the 90 Day Challenge. I know some people have food allergies and find they cannot use the product, but often I have seen that it was a cooincidence that the symptoms of something else occurred at the same time they started the shake, but were unrelated.

      So basically the rest of the post is you stating how you just think they are lying about removing the isoflavones, and the processes they state that they use. Ok. You have that right to believe they are lying. I don’t think they are going to build a multimillion dollar company on lies.

  33. mary says:

    Wow! I wonder why 1 shake for breakfast made my husbands diabetic neuropathy go away after 10 weeks. Seems to me he would have gotten worse if Visalus was so bad. He didn’t change anything else in his lifestyle or diet, Goodness, it must have been a miracle!!

  34. Gaylene says:

    Since you’re not a nutritionist, stick to “domestic” ruminations and leave the science to the experts. Millions of Americans consume unhealthy, fatty foods at every meal – just take a look at the line of cars at an In and Out at lunch time – and they don’t give any thought to what they’re putting in their bodies as they order off of the menu. Consequently, they can’t figure out why they’re overweight, ailing from any number of digestive issues, or their bodies are toxic. ViSalus product ingredients are clearly listed on the label, they are constantly tested and the proof is in the pudding – THE PRODUCTS ARE SAFE, HEALTHY, AND THEY WORK.

    • steph says:

      The proof is in the pudding, you got that right! The proof is that you can not loose 7 pounds in 3 days and call that sustained weight loss. (this was a quote on facebook). People do eat crap and if a shake gets them of some of the crap, they will see a differance. These shakes however are expensive, and my POINT is that you do not NEED ANY SHAKES TO LOOSE weight. I have just lost 5 pounds, inches, have tons of energy. I did this by exercising, eating nutrional foods. Kefier, unpasturized sauerkraut, lean protein, fish, salmon, chicken, turkey, salads, vegetables. Weights are great too, keep your metabolism reved up. Shakes are just a quick fix! The majority of people jumping on the Visalus band wagon will gain the weight back, just wait and see, and you will gain more back! I promise you. The people that keep the weight off will do so through adopting a new life style, they will exercise, eat real food, make changes, but this is a small percentage. Most people that turn to shakes are desparate, if they tried changing their diet they will loose weight! Science PROVES that if you eat healthy and exercise you will loose weight! I don’t listen to multi billion dollar companies, their goal is profits, not your health! I do my own research, and i am not suckered into gimicks. But, if you want to through your money away, go ahead. I will stick to what science proves works, diet and exercise.

      • Ronda Rhodes says:

        It’s not all about you Steph..not everyone has your willpower by changing their entire diet (thats why obesity is a world wide epidemic) ..I never heard or seen 7 lbs. in 3 dys.>>if someone did this thats rather drastic, yet this is more about a lifetime change of choosing healthy colorful foods, exercise (even walking anykind) and by reducing the calories in one or two meals a day with a shake it WORKS! Maintenance comes right along with the success of the weight loss, and changing food habits. Weight Watchers the #1 weight loss is recommending VISalus shakes to their clients for one point. Blue Cross is offering to pay for their obese patients entire VISalus kit every month to prevent death from obesity. Expensive? It’s less than $2 day…and even offer it FREE to thousands of people by sharing w 3 friends. Are you still sure this is so horrible, when it’s changing so many thousands of peoples lives? The Doctor’s and Leading Weight Loss companies are behind this>>>>jus not you!

        • Steph says:

          Of course it’s not about me, what an ignorant comment! Great blog with informative info, too bad for the ViSalus promotors! You mention everything I said, a healthy diet and exercise, but your missing the point, I will say this slow…. You don’t need a shake too loose weight, do you believe everything corporations tell you? Soy is dangerous and not going to waste anymore time, until you research deeper into this you are brain washed.

          • Ronda Rhodes says:

            I luv Soy and so did my Grandpa..he lived to be 100 Years old w all his teeth & vision ..Lol I don’t think any of us want to live beyond 100 years 🙂

          • Ronda Rhodes says:

            oh Steph, i don’t drink this shake to lose weight anymore, it got me off 2 major perscriptions, and gave me the energy to be able to exercise again. Helped me so much TRUTH! ..If i ever stopped i got much more side effects to face from meds….Luv my morning Vi-shake…w fruit n flax and almond or soy milk 🙂

  35. Ronda Rhodes says:

    I was looking at this entire blog wrote by (Natasha Domestica) and realized the blog writer is a (pure naturalist) Organic Vegan, eats no grains/no sugars, who makes her own laundry detergent, toothpastes, deodorant, moisturizers, facial wash and does’nt even use shampoo/conditioners (AT ALL)! Not your typical person…remember this when your reading all the hype…doesnt even chew a piece of gum. ..unlike many of us reading this post. Way to go Natasha, not bashing just understanding why…your against so many foods and/or products. The list probably goes on and on…..completely pure.

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Thanks for taking the time, Ronda. Yes, I am definitely not “average”. 😉

      But I will just say that I’m not a vegan…I was a vegetarian for a few years but now eat grass-fed, organic poultry and on the rare occasion, red meat.

      All that aside, I think the commenter Steph has a point that you don’t need shakes to lose weight. But I also think the Visalus peeps have a point that although that might be true, most Americans are so far-gone (evident by our obesity epidemic) that the idea of a shake/challenge is the only thing they can seem to get their head around. I wish that Visalus would use denatured whey or non-GMO pea-proteins instead of soy. And stevia instead of sucralose. If they did, I might be driving a BMW right now! LOL! 😉

      I often say that I am always changing, learning and growing. The things I eat today are different then what I used to eat even just one year ago. And God knows they are ENTIRELY different than when I was 205 lbs and eating like crap during a time in my life when one should be eating the best (pregnancy). Which is another reminder that no one can just adopt an extremely healthy/clean lifestyle overnight. If we can all agree on anything, it’s that we need to band together in the fight against obesity. Even if we disagree on how best to do that, at least we are all passionate to see a change — and that is fantastic!

      • Trish says:

        I stumbled on this blog while trying to find a list of what’s in visalus due to a co-worker who posted on FB she was now on “the challenge” and a month ago she was suppose to begin a product that helped me lose 42 lbs. She was doing WW & lost some weight w/the “#1” weight loss program & gained it all back & now I guess she is trying “#2”. In over a years time I have gained more nutritional education about no fat/low fat, GMO, Monsanto, drugs, & man made supplements, etc. I lost my weight using pure nutrition, putting 100% absorbable UK organic Moringa Oleifera in my body. I then fed my body real foods & while I was active, I was not on a work out plan. I agree w/everything Natashia said about the items in the Vi shake, due to what I’ve learned from food formulator Russ Bianchi & Dr. Howard W. Fisher-anti-aging researcher/author (whom I’ve seen & listened to in person &have been able to ask questions in person). I have used what I believe to be a quality shake now & then to replace a breakfast/lunch mostly do to “fast lifestyle” (we are all busy). I did not drop 42 lbs using the shake, that came out/was developed after I lost 42 lbs. Russ has explained in great detail, pretty much what was posted above, what is in Vi shakes is not “healthy”. Likely, this post will get bashed in some way as there is a business model of MLM & while I was skeptical & many are, I understand why this way of marketing works to help many & not just the big corp that trickles down little profit to those who are the “worker bee”. The product has to be valid & you need to have a passion to help others. I’ve found this in the vehicle I’ve found for Health(first goal) & a second stream of income. PR1ME 90 is the shake & it’s by Zija. But the primary item is the nutrition you get in a drink, that provides it from a plant kept in its raw form. I’ll be interested in hearing what you find with this. Zija has 95% of the farms, which they grow the correct variety of the Moringa Oleifera tree, using all parts of the tree, not just the leaf & hold to the highest quality,above standards that are regulated that they are to follow (with all products the have). I have shared w/my co-worker why artificial sweeteners & “diet foods” will not get her permanent weight loss & I’ve done WW (earned Life time membership) and WW made lots of money off me, my mom, and my Big sister, who died at 44 of Pancreatic cancer, likely brought upon her from diet soda consumption, pre-packaged meals, (smoking didn’t help either) & a long history of “dieting”. I began looking for a way to get my weight off that wouldn’t harm my body & I had to change my “dieter mentality” and read & research much of what we read or are fed by TV & Media. While I’m not 100% perfect/clean eating, I’m doing my best a little change at a time. Too many ppl want a quick fix. They’ve abused their body over years & when handed a major health issue, are then wanting to change it NOW. Ppl say the “Cost” to buy healthy items is high, when the real matter to them should be the PRICE they will pay when what they do to themselves will COST them more in the end. Try checking out how much fighting or dying from cancer “costs”. I’ve got many family & friends who found that out & likely, more to come. Be blessed all, thanks for listening & I hope in some way, what I shared is of any help or benefit to someone.

          • Trish says:

            Paul, just to clarifying, who’s comments do u find interesting? So many here that u could be talking about. One would assume u would be asking the person whom this blog belongs to.

  36. feloneouscatf says:

    I had to laugh when I read ““Splenda”, is a chlorocarbon, in the same chemical compound family as deadly pesticides like DDT, insecticides, biocides, disinfectants like Chlorox Bleach, and WWI poison gas like dichlorourea” – you do realize that chlorine can be found in everything from apples off the tree to butter? It’s pretty ubiquitous. Rather than spread fear, Fear, FEAR, spread facts. Please see the following: http://apjcn.nhri.org.tw/server/info/books-phds/books/foodfacts/html/data/data5h.html

    Also you apparently did not bother to read Green Med Info’s links on sucralose. All of the articles referenced not one says that sucralose is toxic. In fact, one of the articles they reference says the following:

    “”A combined chronic toxicity/carcinogenicity study of sucralose in Sprague/Dawley rats” is says in black and white “Evaluation of the data obtained from the two phases of this study showed that sucralose was NOT carcinogenic. Sucralose did NOT adversely affect the survival or clinical condition of the rats, and there were NO toxicologically significant findings.”

    In terms of oils there isn’t a single oil that has more omega 3 than omega 6. Some are better than others (canola oil has the best ratio) – animal fats are worse than canola oil. You are correct that sunflower is high in omega 6 but to apply that to all vegetable oils is incorrect.

    More to the point, if you want to lose weight the REALITY is that you a) can’t eat all that you want b) there is no magic formula and c) you need to exercise. It’s very simple: you need to burn more calories than you eat. That means either getting off your butt or eating less (preferably both).

    But frankly spreading false rumors about foods is absurd. First Green Med Info is a really bad site. They don’t understand how to read medical papers – or are too lazy to read the abstracts. Most of their links are to papers on NIH.GOV anyway and they will tell you what is and what is not poisonous.

    • Trish says:

      Wow, really? I kind of think there is enough info out there that says artificial sweeteners are not good for anyone…..you go ahead & put them in your body, I’ll avoid them & keep my health. Money talks, & we are all blind to how these items make it into our foods. Anti-freeze in potato chips (what makes them curl) & in fake ice cream “a little” is ok? I never knew this, it’s not like they put that on the container in language we “regular” ppl can understand. You need to be a chemist to understand what all those items are they are putting in today’s processed foods & the advertisents to get ppl to buy them. I’m sorry, there is just nothing “ok or health/safe” in artificial sweeteners. I agree, exercise & real food in moderation, however, our food is void of nutrition it once had & supplementation is needed.

      • feloneouscat says:

        Actually, you DO need to be a chemist and/or at least be able to read the scientific literature. Green Med Info can’t even read an abstract correctly and this article depends on them for it’s “scientific understanding.” There are many things that are generally considered safe – salt and sugar for example. Artificial sweeteners are tested ad nauseum. Do I use them? No. But there is a difference between that and calling sunflower oil TOXIC. Toxic has a specific meaning.

        Supplements do not change the nature of food. You might believe it does, but that merely proves ignorance. I came across this website because my niece found it and thought it was real. I had to explain to her that no, the person doesn’t take their medications and no none of it is real.

        Are there bad things out there? Yes, but many of y’all eat them like they’re fine. Fatty meats, french fries, bags of candy…

        Reality is a bitch, but you don’t lose weight through diet supplements. THESE are the people who are lying to you.

        • Natasha (Domestica) says:

          I’m not sure you understand where I’m coming from if you think that I’m telling people to use supplements to lose weight! And you CLEARLY haven’t read any of my background or this blog if you think I eat fatty meats, french fries, and bags of candy!

          But if you’re looking for more “legit” studies on the dangers of sunflower oil (and increases in omega 6 vs. 3), perhaps a few of these will suit you:




          • feloneouscat says:

            What I understand is you frightened my 20 year old niece with your “Domestica’s Top 3 Dangerous Visalus Ingredients” – which upon analysis are really not that dangerous.

            1. You name sunflower oil with the verbiage “healthy fat will contain a proper ratio of omega 3 and 6” – however, the only “proper” oil that fits that description is fish oil. All other oils, have a high omega 6 and lower omega 3. Both vegetable and animal oils have high omega 6.

            2. “Natural Flavors” means just that. It DOESN’T mean MSG because by law if it contains MSG that must be on the label. Why? IT’S THE LAW. An and old one. Since 1990.


            Nor can you use hydrolyzed protein (MSG is the salt of glutamic acid and glutamic acid is an amino acid) as a “Natural Flavor” – again, there are very specific rules to prevent cheating.

            Rather than depend on sites that don’t bother to read labeling rules, perhaps you should read what rules the industry is required to follow.

            3. Sucralose is not toxic. Toxic has a precise meaning: poisonous. If you want to lie to your readers, that is your choice, but state agencies from various nations have tested sucralose, everyone from the EU, Canada, Australia/New Zealand and have found it safe. You can’t even get GM corn into some of those countries.

            Nor does having two chlorine atoms make something similar to “Chlorox Bleach” – sodium chloride, common house salt is NaCl … in fact, by adding an atom of oxygen to sodium chloride you get sodium hypochlorate (bleach). Sucralose is FAR more complex and not even remotely similar. So using YOUR example, you are in far more danger eating common salt!


            Rather than attempt to scare your readers, it is far better you use available literature and correct terminology (whatever your private feelings). Truth is far better than fiction.

  37. Neil says:

    Like most fat people I started taking ViSalus looking for a quick way to loose weight. I mentioned it to my doctor but he didn’t have much to say. So I went forward with it after a couple of months I had lost nearly 30 pounds and was feeling great. However, I started to notice strange heart rhythms and chest pains. My doctor did a stress echoe and my heart was physically fine. He eventually put me on Prilosec because he believed it was reflux. Twice during the 7 months while using ViSalus I went to the ER because my heart would start beating at 180 bpm for no apparent reason. I’m now on a beta blocker for that. The chest and abdominal pain never stopped until I thought it might be the ViSalus. After about a week off the stuff, my symptoms were gone. I still had a couple of months of product left and about a week ago I thought I would see what happened if I had some shakes. After just two shakes the symptoms were back. I don’t know for sure whether or not the shakes were to blame, but for much of the time I was using them I felt as if I was or about to have a heart attack at any time. Call me stupid (because I now realize that I was) but this was the first time I even checked to see if there are side affects to this crap. I felt I needed to comment because I experienced what this blog claimed. Moral of the story…trust no one and do research before you put anything into your body. Now, how due I sue these guys for the 10s of thousands of $ it cost me. The claim heart health by using their product.

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Thanks for sharing your story, Neil. I’m sorry to hear you’ve had such a bad experience and I hope you’ll poke around my blog to find other ways to lose weight! I recommend the Clean Eating Diet for Men by Tosca Reno — all of her books offer a great way to start eating better without feeling totally overwhelmed by it all!

  38. Nickolas Krauth says:

    Products that are labeled zero calories are not that promising. It’s true. There are no calories in them but to make them taste as good as they are, substitutes are added. Artificial sweeteners that come with side effects are included in the ingredients. They have to be, to redeem the flavor. Otherwise, the products will end up too awful to be a delight.You’d think you’re in the right track with artificial sweeteners. With no calories, you can say goodbye to some extra pounds in your system. You feel as if you’re doing alright. Well, you’re not. Truth be told, if you intend on losing weight through these empty calories, you are kidding yourself. Not only do they not have any dieting advantage, they, also, puncture your body with other effects.;

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  39. Mike says:

    It is interesting to see all of these opinions about ViSalus from people with no medical background. Would you consider the opiinion of the the Director of the Division of Otologic/Neurotoligic Surgery in the Department of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery; Director of Otolaryngology Research Laboratory; Co-Director of the Tinnitus Center; and the Chair of the Complementary/Integrative Medicine Program for a multi-million dollar health center. Here is what he has to say about ViSalus. And I will save everyone the sarcastic responses, he is also the developer of ViSalus. I imagine some of you will discount all of his other credentials as a result. Those with an open mind should watch. I am personally down 60lbs and went from 3 high blood pressure meds to one and my doctor advised me to keep doing what I am doing and expect to be off of all meds soon. Here is the video if the person who wrote this blog even allows it: http://youtu.be/ce54O7UzXAk

  40. Steph says:

    I don’t need a medical degree to make an educated, well researched opinion. Look at the money trail! As soon as you stop drinking these empty calorie shakes your weight will come back, just because someone with a medical degree developed this means nothing to me!

    • Mike says:

      Your intelligence in your remarks speaks for itself. I can only assume you didn’t watch a minute of the video as part of your “research”. No point in listening to the science behind the product from the Doctor who invented it. You must know better.
      “The Truth, Ignorance may deride it, malice may attack it. But in the end, there it is.” ~ Sir Winston Churchill
      I have helped over 140 people lose weight. How many have you helped? Don;t answer. I can’t waste anymore time, I have more people to help on their weight loss journey. Good day.

      • Steph says:

        Your ignorant! I have helped many! I have never taken high blood pressure pills, or any thing for that matter, I’m 44 and am intelligent enough to know that if I drink water, eat lean protein, fruits, veg, fats and exercise with proper form, add probiotics such as Un pasturized sauerkraut to my diet, chlorophyll rich foods to name a few. I think I will take the $200 per month cost of the shakes and save my money! I didn’t need a financial degree to figure that one out either. I am educated, I don’t need to watch a video, I’m in perfect Heath and didn’t need ViSalus, I give them credit for marketing and for their target market , a society that is so desperate for answers to why they are obese and sick that they will throw money at anything. Exercise is hard work, and healthy eating takes organization. Try adding vegetables and raw food to your diet, please don’t buy into a product because science promotes it!

        • Mike says:

          1) I and 12 Promoters and 19 Customers get Kit of our choice for free every month.
          2) Kits if you don’t have 3 people join you, start at $48 per month
          But if course with all of your “Extensive Research” I am sure you just made a mistake. And exactly how many people have you helped lose weight? I can provide a list? Can you? Documentation beats conversation.

          • Mark Blanton says:

            We promote a 90 day Challenge…. We are not a shake company! The average age of our customers is 43 yrs old. Our shakes are the path of least resistance to help BEGIN a healthy lifestyle. All u “twig and berry” types are not going to convince anybody who has been raised on fast food since they were 5 in kindergarten (or before) to eat tees bark and algae and be a super healthy natural person.

            Somebody tries our shakes, they lose a few lbs. Then, they CHALLENGE themselves to replace their Cheetos with fruits and vegetables as a snack… Then they take that a step further and start replacing their soft drinks with water. Then, they decide to workout (while using our shakes for the protein recovery/nutrition….) We are about changing peoples lives and ENCOURAGING people to make healthier choices and exercise. The fact remains that our shakes are the path of least resistance. We promote a Challenge… Not just a shake

            And, u can get it Free!! And, once again, one of the “experts” on here has an Oolong tea website… Convenient!!! Body By Vi Rocks and we are THE Challenge…. Period!

        • Diane says:

          Natasha…thanks so much for this blog, you are point on with everything. (I know you already know that) I posted this website on my FB page, because Matt and Vanessa Wilhelm (he played for the Green Bay Packers) were in my area promoting this garbage and I had to let everyone know it’s crap….well I started getting nasty text messages from Vanessa Wilhelm…they didn’t like what we had to say about this crap…LOL

  41. Innocent Bystander says:

    ViSalus Sciences doesn’t care if you lose weight or not. What they really want you to do is to market their products to the next guy, and have them market it to the next guy

    Does Body By Vi work? Sure it will; if you replace high calories meals with low calorie, protein rich nutritious ones, you will lose weight, have more productive workouts, etc. But this is not because of any miracle formulation; it’s simple calorie restriction/reduction

    There are no scientific studies that substantiate that this stuff works more than a few ten cent vitamins

    • Mike says:

      Who said anything about a miracle formula? Our ingredients and nutritional fact sheet are available anywhere. Yes, these products have made millions of people (over 5000 per day join us) be able to handle lower calorie meals for our two shake dinners and one regular meal each day. Your assumption that none of us care about helping others lose weight is not true and very presumptuous . I love my BMW ViSalus pays for and the money of course. However, my biggest reward so far is that I have personally helped over 130 people lose weight. I have a very close friend who was able to control his diet with our product enough to go off insulin as a type 2 diabetic. Lastly, do you know of any company that pays CUSTOMERS to lose weight or has a 90 Day Money Back Results Guarantee? We pay $1000 to 10 people who lose at least 10 pounds each week. Search ViGuyMike on Youtube and the video I posted of Dr. Seidman. He discusses the scientific studies that have been conducted. It is my hope you will watch the video and not do what most do on this blog do and stick to their opinions while refusing to at least research. It seems from your post that you may be the type to actually look further. Regardless, I wish you well. ViGuyMike and I can be contacted on ViGuyMike.com

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Hi Cindy,

      Never heard of PlexusSlim before but looking at their ingredients, it’s sketchy (in my opinion). First off, their “propriety blend” leaves a lot up to the imagination. It has an asterisk after it but then no where could I find the reference that expands on that (or what the “propriety blend” even is!).

      And the second ingredient is polydextrose. This is a synthetic, mad-made fiber. Most studies are showing that man-made and artificial fibers are not absorbed in the body as well as natural fiber — some not even absorbed at all! So you’re basically drinking mostly fake fiber that was made in a lab.

      Finally, this is not a meal replacement shake like the ones debated here. It’s a weight loss shake that you drink before you eat a meal. So it’s the same as weight loss pills. RUN!

    • Teresa Hagerman says:

      No “jumping” just encouragement to be unbiased and keep in mind that some folks value your OPINION, but will not choose to eat the way that you do. There is always more than one way to accomplish a goal, and while yours works for you – many folks who cut calories to lose weight actually starve their bodies of total nutrients because they are not nutrition experts.

  42. Teresa Hagerman says:

    Wow, Natasha! While I appreciate everyone sharing knowledge, and I also strive to increase mine, it sounds like you are an advocate of Vega and for some reason, completely against Visalus ~ to the point of ridiculing its representatives. Pardon me, but your review does not sound unbiased. I also agree that natural/organic eating is absolutely the best way to go; however, we all know that most folks do not do that. You make a couple of very good points, one of which is that for unhealthy/average eaters, nutritious, food grade shakes such as visalus are a better choice. You miss the mark a couple of times, though. There are countless healthy people who are on the challenge and promote it. Those folks include fitness/nutrition experts, professional athletes, medical professionals, etc. You also fail to point out that one of your main points of contention – sucralose – is included in an infinitesimal amount. As a matter of fact, we are exposed to more than what is in the shake in our normal habits in the environment. Also, the reason for including sucralose is to keep the shake diabetic friendly with the safest sugar substitute available. As research shows another one safer, Visalus is committed to changing sweetner.
    My point here is this – please take your position to be objective and fair because the way you have approached this blog may cause folks who could greatly benefit from Visalus’ program or other alternative to give up. Thanks!

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Sure, I advocate Vega. But I also advocate Sun Warrior, Garden of Life, TerasWhey, and more! I just happen to use Vega as my personal preference. And I don’t recommend anything that I wouldn’t take myself. Visalus just being one of the line items on a long list of poor quality products I refuse to put in my well-tuned body.

  43. David Cronin says:

    Hello all. I find this blog to be very interesting. I too was in doubt about the validity of Visalus products claims. However, after several months of research into different products,, I concluded there was always something wrong about each and everyone of them. I even tried several of them. I have been obese most of my life and was diagnosed with Diabetes a little over a year ago. I got on the Visalus Shape kit in the hopes of losing weight and getting healthier. For me, Visalus turned out to be the answer. I have been on the shakes since Sept, 2012 with no side effects. I have lost 80 pounds and my Diabetes medications have been cut in half. Although I am a promoter for Visalus now, let me state that I am not rich, I dont drive a BMW, in fact I make about 45 to 65 dollars a month in commission from what I promote. For me, it is not about the money, it is about feeling better than I have in 20+ years.

    Also, what needs to mentioned is that you are not taught by Visalus to only drink the shakes and stay on them for life. I have learned a lot from other Visalus users and promoters about living a healthier lifestyle, which includes a lot of label reading, fresh fruits and vegetables, exercise, and organic products as well. There is a lot more to Visalus than just being an MLM, or making money. For me, it is saving my life were other diets and plans have failed. Just because it works for me, does not mean it will work for everyone. Research what you will and decide for yourself what works for you. Griping back and forth is not the answer. The information on both side is great, it helps people look at all options out there. I really dont care if Natasha is, or is not affiliated with Vega. So what? Her opinion is hers. My opinion is mine. Find what works for you and move on.

    Thank you for this blog as it was very entertaining and did give me some useful information. Be well, and have a great day.

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Thanks for your comment, David! I am thrilled to hear your success story and that you haven’t experienced any of the side effects other commenters have mentioned. And it sounds like you found a good circle of Visalus friends who are trying to look at the bigger picture (ie. eating healthy and exercising more) and that’s a bonus, in my books.

      In a perfect world, we would all be eating 100% organic, non-toxic, non-GMO, completely natural and unprocessed products. But we all know we don’t live in a perfect world so you just have to make the best choice you can. I think the secret here is to not stay on Visalus forever…to treat it as a stepping stone to healthier habits and not falling back on it as a permanent crutch. There is nothing wrong with a crutch once in a while — we all need them sometimes! But the next step is standing on your own two feet and knowing that you can do this healthy thing, with or without Visalus.

      Good luck!

    • Cindy says:

      Hi there. When I clicked on your link to Ocean Avenue, there is only a video there. No options to look at the products. Is there a different site to actually see the products?
      Thank you.

    • Ana says:

      Sorry to hear you were sick… If you don’t mind sharing, what were your symptoms? I am a current VS user looking for a different option. I currently supper from bleating and painful gas from daily shakes. Makes it difficult to go to the gym and exercise.

      • Marion says:

        An online discussion with non scientists, unqualified nutrition experts and non medical people is not the best way to decide what is right for you. As Natasha will often say….’Do your research’. Here is a link that may answer all or some of your misconceptions.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6uooPdzeuQ
        If you need to know about the amazingly long list of health issues that many people no longer need medication for after taking,the Vi Shakes, send me a Facebook message to Marion Aitken. I received yesterday the news that a friend’s father, aged 87, who was under a mental health team in Manchester UK, and suffering from Dementia, has now been signed off because the friend daily gave her Dad two cups of hot chocolate with a scoop of Vi Shake. He now rattles off The Times Crossword in minutes and plays Sudoku and cooks for himself. You can’t argue with that! No doubt some will.

      • Steven Jones says:

        That’s right. I felt that before. People from Visalus doesn’t understand this. Whatever they felt that and respect them what they have been through…

    • Mark Blanton says:

      Of course you aren’t “sick” anymore Steven…. You have switched to another company and are now trying to promote that…. So, just like the others, the best way to do that is to bash ViSalus…. I find it comical! Just how exactly did you get sick? Your products aren’t as good as ours…. They contain GMO soy that women and fitness athletes need to stay away from…. Bad decision brother! But, good luck with it…. Just sayin’

      • Steven Jones says:

        I don’t care it is.. It is my life and make right decision. I can’t lift weight because of my bad shoulder. Ocean Avenue Empower product help me that I can lift weight. You have to respect that it is my business. That is why I switch to Ocean Avenue because of that product that help me. It is nothing to do with Visalus or others. It is something that i am proud that I pick right decision over Visalus. Visalus is great business, but it is not for me.

  44. Ana says:

    This is a very informative blog. I have been searching for truths that people who aren’t being paid by ViSalus… Or by the people buying ViSalus… can provide. The truth about this product is hard to find, but the obvious facts are: everyone who promotes it, promotes the fitness and activity to supplement the product. What does this mean?? If you don’t exercise while taking ViSalus, you won’t lose weight. So, if someone stops ViSalus, but continues the physical activity, said person will continue to lose weight. Why do I buy ViSalus? Convenience, laziness, and to save time. Am I looking for something to replace said convenience? I always have been, since my first ViShake. I now have more inspiration. Nothing beats clean eating. Nothing. People who have the bodies we all want will tell you that. Pain and simple. Thank you for doing the research.

  45. Lisa says:

    Left that company because they care more about a BMW then ingredients. If you want a healthy organic toxic free shake, we are certified organic and are one of only 6 companies that are certified by the toxic free foundation. Out of the 6 companies that have this certification, we are the only one who passed on the first inspection. You can check out my company site at http://www.essanteorganics.com/Phbody

    • Marion says:

      Pain relief from Rheumatoid Arthritis has been achieved by my cousin, a professional photographer who for years has suffered when carrying her equipment around the world and, in fact, the travel and day to day tasks. A year ago she started a 90 Day Challenge and substituted 2 meals with Vi Shakes. She quickly got relief from pain and now, on her 3rd 90 day challenge, has lost 60lbs. However, Vi shakes are now reduced to one a day and without that for a period, the pain starts to return. Rhonda Lucero, The Vi Girl, who has been with Vi from the start, used to be in constant ;pain from Fibromyalgia – hopelessly debilitating and life stealing but she quickly found relief with Vi Shakes and has been completely pain free for several years and leads an incredibly busy life helping and advising others with their health problems. Find her on YouTube or just google Rhonda Lucero.
      Many of the negative comments are based on fear, inability to achieve anything, those who knock everything and try to convince people they are more knowledgeable, those who whinge about the cost because they cannot afford to buy the product…. (sad but Vi has already donated 4,200,000 meals to finance and nutrition challenged communities)..However, Vi Shakes cost a lot less than the bad foods that got people fat and an enormous percentage of Americans never cook but send out for pizzas and burgers, feed their kids Happy Meals, and so on.
      I’m 75 and so thrilled to daily meet people who benefit from Vi’s high nutritiion. You can look at Visalus Comparison Chart via Google/YouTube. All the other’s are copying but Vi stays ahead. The Nutra Cookies and Vi Crunch (cereal) use stevia for sweetening and you can use either of those in place of shakes for the same results but also eat a sensible meal with fresh vegetables. There are so many doctors and nutritionists promoting and/or recommending BodybyVi, including America, Canada, UK, Germany and Austria.
      People with Kidney disease should not normally take Soy. However, Vi triple refines their Soy and whey (Tri Sorb Protein) and as a result a 27yr old lady delayed her kidney removal operation to try Vi as a last resort. She never had the op and kidney disease is a thing of the past. She was completely cured. The TriSorb Protein eliminates the usual Soy digestion issues associated with other brands and therefore the benefits are available to virtually everyone, regardless of what you have been told about Soy.
      Hard up? Get yours for free or a 90 day results money back guarantee. Read the wonderful results in the other blogs. These people are not liars. Don’t focus on the negative losers – they are the minority. If Vi has caused harm to these people, they have recourse to the courts. But, of course, nobody has ever taken legal action for harm. You are welcome to email me with questions at TheviLady@virginmedia.com and I can send you a sample wherever you are.
      Take heart,, and stay positive ……. negativity harms the spirit. 7 Vi shakes are taken every second by positive millions who benefit.
      In response to the post above, BMW’s are a reward for those people who chose to work hard for their families. Vi does not advertise so those would be costs go to promoters. Why not? I guess that blogger would not want one but prefers to pay a finance company for a Ford Focus or similar? Rubbish! I guess she would refuse a bonus from her employers or an exponential income. Maybe she trusts the FDA to keep her healthy? Baah!

  46. Teresa Hagerman says:

    Wow, so I just saw that the response I made several weeks ago, which was supported by scientific proof, is not here. It saddens me to see that your blog is biased and opinionated, and you aren’t interested in your followers having all of the facts 😦

  47. hannah causey says:

    Hi! I was given the opportunity to speak with a visalus ambassador about a year ago and when I asked what sugars were added and why there was soy proteins, he couldn’t answer my question. This was alarming to me. My boyfriend and I have been in the crossfit community for over 4 years now and eat clean by mostly following Paleo and whole foods. Visalus is crap! We recently ran across a new supplement. Ocean avenue is the company. We did our research for over a month and could not find 1 questionable ingredient. It ia 100% natural and created by a nutritional bichemist. There is soy lecithin but it is of no harm bc it is not derived from the protein. It comes from the fat and does not contain the phytoestrogens. Just wanted everyone to know that there is a shake out there that is absolutely and undeniably sound when it comes to a nutritious meal replacement. 🙂

    • Teresa Hagerman says:

      It is very unfortunate that you approach anyone promoting a product & that person cannot discuss the product’s contents. Unfortunately, all companies have folks who only chase the money and don’t get it. Doing the same research you did on OA on Visalus, you would have found the answers like I did before I chose to join the challenge. Our soy doesn’t have phytoestrogens either. It is non GMO and the Isoflavones have been removed. Only the beneficial parts of soy are used. We use an infinitesimal amount of sucralose (we each breathe in the same amount, or more, in the environment every day) so that our shakes are completely diabetic friendly. Most folks don’t understand that sugar is very dangerous to our health, too. A lot of products found in nature are. There are many good products out there, and we each have our favorites. I have seen thousands of folks, including myself, benefit from Visalus with no negative outcome at all, and I’ve been drinking the shakes & talking to folks for over 1 1/2 years. All I’m suggesting is objectivity. We can make ANYTHING sound bad if we want to.

    • Marion says:

      Nothing on this planet is now 100% natural. Monsanto have seen to that. We do the best we can and help others to benefit within their financial capabilities. Vi gives everyone the chance of getting theirs for free and has donated 4,200,000 to people in need. Non GMO, Lactose and Gluten free and without aspartame.
      It’s great that you have found something that suits your needs and your purse. Good luck and stay healthy.

  48. coachryanfitness says:

    Want to know how bad sucralose is? Sprinkle it around an anti hill wait for the ants to bring back down to the queen and by the end of the day the ants die. Vega is not an MLM or network marketing. Vega is a true caring company that only puts organic ingredients in their products. The soy in Visalus products aren’t even organic. Visalus is not a health product, but weight loss products. People will lose weight, but an expense to their health.

  49. Donna says:

    You know what I get totally that you are doing research but to be totally fair why don’t you blog about other diets as well? I never are garbage and had to go on meds that made me gain about ten lbs a month. I sat 60 lbs overweight from medical issues not my food. I think you’re way too harsh. People drink fizzy drinks and there are so many negative reports on that or how about hair dye for example do you use products on your body like deodorant that is supposedly bad for you from someone doing a review? Or what about slim fast? Ensure? Come on there is no miracle get skinny drug. This is a platform to start weightloss and other goals like any other company out there. So perhaps you should try a shake!

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Hi Donna! No, I don’t use deodorant. Or shampoo. Or conditioner. Or lotions. I used to dye my hair when I was younger but stopped for the last ten years. Just had it done for the first time in forever and went to an organic spa to have a non-chemical version. Am I a hippy or what?! LOL!

      Of course I don’t expect everyone to live as toxin-free as I do. But you asked, so I’m answering! 🙂

      As for the shake issue — there are plenty of ways to lose weight without shakes but I understand that some people need the shake as a catalyst to getting started.

      I just sent this email to a reader who emailed me and I think it fits here so I’ll copy and paste it:

      If using a shake product is going to help you regulate calories and maintain/lose weight, you do what you gotta do. But the end goal should always be to one day stop using shake supplements. They are a crutch and although we all need a crutch sometimes, it’s not healthy to rely on them forever.

      Ideally, you can keep progressing through the years (yes, years!) and eventually find yourself eating organic produce, grass-fed lean proteins, probiotic-rich homemade yogurt for good gut flora, raw milk and dairy products, and lots of greens! That would be a perfect diet in my opinion. Even if you follow the 80/20 rule (80% the above foods and 20% whatever you want), you would be hard-pressed to be overweight with a diet like that.

      That being said, there is not ONE perfect diet for everyone. Some of us feel really great eating grains and others (like me!) feel like we’ve been hit by a semi when we eat them. Part of owning your own health is not stopping until you feel great. You just keep trying new things until you figure out what your body wants (and hates!). The cleaner you eat, the more your body will tell you. You will become more and more sensitive to foods that maybe never bothered you before but once your body is cleaned out and operating as it should, it has more energy and sensitivity to tell you what’s not working for you.

      I have experimented with all sorts of diets and have finally reached a place where I know what my body loves, what it can tolerate in small doses, and what it can’t tolerate at all!

      Shakes are not the best way to lose weight effectively. They are just one way to do it. People who lose weight without shakes but just by eating clean diets and moving more, tend to be healthier and keep the weight off for good. Look at my most recent success story I just posted (Kathy lost 255 pounds in a year!!) and without shakes or supplements!

      • Mark Blanton says:

        Yuck!!! No deodorants?? That’s all I needed to hear to know what type of people are supporting the Vega lifestyle. Probably have the whole hairy armpits and tree hugger stinch. Btw, I never would have guessed that by ur picture on here so I’m surprised! :/

        • Natasha (Domestica) says:

          Ha! Okay, okay, that sounds much worse than it really is! Kinda personal but I don’t want you to think I’m roaming around smelling all foul or anything! Although I can’t say what a typical Vega customer’s personal hygiene is (that’s a bit of a generalization, don’t you think?!), I can say that I don’t actually sweat unless I’m working out or in a stressful situation (e.g. making a presentation).

          I don’t care what I smell like (or look like, for that matter) when I’m killin’ it in the gym. As for when I’m stressed, I do wear a natural deodorant on those few occasions (aluminum-free). The sad thing is, there are no women’s deodorants on the market. NONE. You can look at every single product and they are all antiperspirants. And those are made with aluminum which is SUPER harmful and carcinogenic.

          I use baking soda/apple cider vinegar to wash/condition my hair once a week (AMAZING! My husband, who is NOT a tree-hugging hippy, will never switch back to shampoo!). I make my own laundry detergent (borax and washing soda) and I use an organic and natural tooth powder instead of chemical-filled pastes. I use organic coconut oil as a moisturizer and I stopped using face wash and instead, just use a hot cloth twice a day.

          I made the switch for many of these things because I started researching the ingredients and was horrified at how carcinogenic and harmful the ingredients were. But the cool thing is, many of these less-toxic alternatives are actually WAY better than the stuff I was using before! My skin would get so dry that I had to use the most expensive lotions or it would flake right off. Now, I use inexpensive coconut oil and I have the best skin of my life. A few years ago I started getting dandruff, which I had never experienced before, and had to buy the most expensive salon products or else my scalp was out of control. Even then, it wasn’t perfect. Correcting my ph balance with baking soda and apple cider vinegar has completely cured my dry scalp and made my hair better than ever! I used to have to wash it EVERY day or it would get oily and gross. Now I can go six days without washing it. So I’m saving money AND time. Add that to the fact that I’m not ingesting phytoestrogen compounds through my very porous skin (as happens with all beauty products) and it’s a win-win!

          Off topic but a good discussion! 🙂

  50. trisha.dicaro@facebook.com Di Caro says:

    Thank you SO much for this review! Now where can I find your recommended healthy shake. I’m not looking to lose weight as I am pregnant, but want a healthy start to my day and don’t want to put on excessive like I did with my first 2 pregnancies.

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      I buy Vega’s supplements at Whole Foods (when it’s on sale!) but it’s also sold online by Vega directly. I also recommend TerasWhey (if you’re fine with dairy products) and it’s available online or at premium health foods stores. 🙂

  51. Chele says:

    I am currently taking the Visalus challenge and am almost to the end of the 90 day challenge. I have to admit I’m not totally impressed with the results. Before I started the shakes I was doing a modified paleo diet. I lost 16 pounds in about 4 months (granted I’m sure a lot of that was water weight). Since I’ve been on the Visalus shakes, I’ve only lost 6 pounds. Yes, I know slower weight lose is better for our bodies, but I’m just thinking I had better results with my modified paleo diet. The nutrionist I spoke with last fall was firm about no artificial sweeteners except for Nu-Stevia (in small doses), no processed food, and no whey protein. (My diet change wasn’t geared towards weight loss, so much as removing sugar, flour, grains, etc to stop female reproductive problems I’ve been having). After reading all this blog and these posts, I’m staying away from these types of products and going back to natural foods. Thank you

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Hi Chele,

      Sounds like you should have stuck with the modified paleo diet! As I’ve said in some of these comments, I think shake programs are good if someone is absolutely at their last hope and doesn’t know what else to do. But it shouldn’t be a regular part of their diet.

      I don’t think whey protein is bad (if it’s high quality denatured whey from grass-fed sources — eg. TerasWhey) and whey protein supplements actually have the most compelling scientific evidence in their efficacy over other protein supplements. But maybe she was a paleo believer and so they think that all dairy is bad (which I disagree with). I think our bodies need high quality sources of fat that aren’t just from plants/seeds. Grass-fed butter or ghee, grass-fed raw and whole milk, etc. But again, each person has to listen to their own body and respond. Your diet should be a completely tailored plan unique to you and you alone. 🙂

      Good luck!

      • Chele says:

        My nutritionist didn’t recommend eliminating dairy, and in fact told me to use real butter instead of margarine or like products, and to use whole milk, for the healthy fats they provide. And she recommended legumes (dry beans) which I’ve read that most paleo people don’t eat. Due to polyps at an early age and a family history of colon cancer, I need a lot of fiber.

        In regards to the other posts about Visalus promoting health, not the MLM or BMWs. I can honestly say that is NOT the case with all up lines in Visalus. I didn’t want to be a promoter, I just wanted to lose weight and maybe get my product for free by getting others to sign up ($58 a month for one shake a day is a lot for my budget). But I was pushed and pushed until I gave in. And since then they’ve pushed me to call and push the product on to everyone I know, something I’m not comfortable with. And their constant comments about making money and getting a BMW. There is even a pre-written speech you’re supposed say when you call people. I feel a product should speak for itself and not be pushed on people. And I couldn’t use myself as an example, without lying. Kinda hard to sell it if people can see it didn’t work for you.

        I realize some people have no will power, I’m definitely one. But if people don’t learn to eat healthy food, remove junk food from their diets, and move/exercise, then their lives will never get better.

    • Jessica says:

      I hope you plan to buy all organic at an organic health food store….. Or grow your own…. Nothing In visalus is any different than the things 90% of Americans eat every day.

  52. Deb says:

    I found this stream wonderfully entertaining. I didn’t know there were so many MLMs out there. I own a sports oriented store (bicycle shop) and understand totally about good wholesome food and exercise. My husband and I are both cyclists and total up the km (60 – 100 at least 3 times a week, if not more). We promote healthy lifestyle changes and walk the walk, not just the talk. We steer people to healthy food choices to assist them before, during and after their workout of choice.

    We would never dream to recommend artificial this or that. Most people we are in contact with care about what they put in their bodies. There is one customer who revealed that she is drinking the Visalus shakes – says she puts different flavors in them to taste good. I’ve known her now for 7 month, and I hate to say, she looks bigger than the first day I met her. I am no expert on the chemical analysis (soy, fats, sweeteners) of her shake product, what alarmed me was her size – and she used a bike trainer this winter.

    We provide Hammer products (offers to various needs), but what our customers are asking for is a meal replacement or shake if you will to address their post-ride recovery – good quality protein, vitamines, minerals, sugars (not sweetener), and electrolytes. I was approached by a marketing person who put a shake sample in my hand, called Taislim Shake (vanilla – I guess there is a chocolate one too). We tried it to see how it tasted – it was the best one I have ever had! The ingredients seem solid.

    Would you give some feedback on this product please?

    Oh and a word on MLMs, I understand that to start up with a business model such as these there can be fees attached; some as low as $29.95 – $5000. To get product for free means work and lots of dedication. Some companies make it hard to get paid and some not so much – some promise cars and then make it hard to keep them, leaving the car/lease holders holding the bag and losing them to collectors. The appealing component of an MLM is a low capital investment – say $139.95/month (could be the price of product consumed monthly). I, on the other hand have a huge capital investment up to $100,000. in inventory. It all depends on what you want to do with your money and how you want to make it. But under no circumstances should a person ever be sold on hype and false promises – a product should be sound.

    If we all followed the golden rule – do unto others … I wouldn’t be reading the gong show that preceded my entry.

    Thanks for the laughs.


  53. Deb says:

    Forgot to add that to make money ALL companies, mine included, mark up their products anywhere from 40 – 60 – 100%. When I see products in the supermarket or health food store, rest assured there is a healthy mark up. If they didn’t they would be out of business. How would anyone get paid otherwise. I wouldn’t be too quick to jump on an LML for their pricing/quality ingredients. Most MLMs refocus their advertising dollars into a pay plan (ya, some produce inferior products for max dollars earned – but not all do), while other corporations/product producers spend big bucks getting the product message out there resulting in a hidden cost to the consumer and which is reflected in the end price. We could all ask ourselves, “at what cost does this product have?” before we make a judgement claim or opinion on whether cheep ingredients were used in its manufacture or not.

    Not MLMers are parasites and weasles – people are good-hearted generally speaking. They want to make a living as do we all. There are many entrepreneurs and business owners who have ethical shortfalls, but not all. We are such a mixed bag. That’s what makes life so interesting.

  54. sandra says:

    I was given body by vi shakes for free a an experiment in a medical class and have had some digestive problems wondering if additives in the shake could have caused it

    • Mark Blanton says:

      Sandra, the probiotics and fiber in our shakes sometimes have a very small “cleansing” process. It doesn’t happen to everybody. But, the enzymes that help with digestion also helps get all the bad stuff out of your gut. I had to use the restroom a little more for a couple days but after that have been fine. And, I lost my first 5 lbs that way! Lol 🙂

    • Joni says:

      Sandra – you’re not alone, the same happened to me. I have had no success for the last 4 months while on Vi …. very healthy, spinach/berry smoothies 2x per day and 1 regular healthy meal (usually a salad) and wholesome snacks during the day ….. exercise 5x week and the scale did not move; wasn’t for me or my digestive system. Just have to go with a product that works for you individually – my gut now prefers Sun Warrior.

  55. Mark Blanton says:

    If you can eat 3-6 Good Healthy meals a day for 365 days straight and get all your nutrients into your body that it needs then GREAT…..your 1 in 1,000!! I DO NOT teach people to drink all their meals and live on a liquid diet. I do not tell people they shouldn’t eat food. I do not promise people that if they drink my magic shake they will instantly lose weight by changing nothing else. I do not recommend to not workout and be active. I do not tell people they need to stop living, and change everything about their lifestyle in order to be a healthier individual and be able to reach their goals. See, this isn’t rocket science people….for all you Health nuts, dieticians, nutritionists, personal trainers, and Experts out there…..would you rather have an individual skip a meal or drink a Nutritional shake that has 30% of all your vitamins and nutrients in it along with the best protein on the market, with a full serving of fiber? Would you rather have an individual go through a drive through or drink a Nutritional Shake? Would you rather have an individual eat a bowl of ice cream, a bag of chips, a candy bar, or drink a pop or a monster energy drink OR drink a Nutritional Shake?? Our society and lifestyle today has Forced us to get our nutrition in a different way than we used to 50 years ago. People are on the go and don’t have time to cook 3-6 good healthy meals every day or let alone afford to purchase everything required for that lifestyle to be healthy. Its not the Shake that is the best thing about what we do, it’s the Challenge Community and Challenge Platform that is the best thing about what we do! We Challenge people everyday to be better, live healthier, push forward, and be an example! The Shake is the path of least resistance into the Health Consciousness! The Shake doesn’t make someone change their entire lifestyle and go from fast food/junk food to health junky running in 5K’s, Half Marathon’s, Iron Man’s, Tough Mudders, ect…. But the success they have on the shake and the encouragement and motivation and accountability the Challenge Community provides is what gradually changes someone into living a Healthy Lifestyle. That’s why the Challenge isn’t a Diet! A diet is where you drastically change everything that you eat for a short period of time to get certain results, but then go back to what you were doing before, and this is why they always fail. Yes, if you drink the shakes for 90 days and lose weight, and then stop drinking them and go back to exactly what you were doing before you will end up being exactly where you were before! If you got a personal trainer or a nutritionist and followed their plan they gave you and lost weight, but then decided to go back to what you were doing before your trainer and nutritionist then yes, you will go back to the way you were before you ever saw them. Yes, you can drink a shake everyday because you figured out how to eat a candy bar everyday, or drink a coffee every morning, or go through the fast food line everyday, or brush your teeth everyday, or take a shower everyday, or eat some chips everyday, or check facebook everyday, ect…..we do things everyday of our life, and fitting in a shake that taste like cake and candy can EASILY be implemented into your daily routine:) I Challenge you to get started on a 90-Day Challenge with us and get plugged into our Challenge Community and see what happens……we have a 90-Day Money Back Results Guarantee…..what do you have to lose???

    • Marion says:

      So where are the dangerous Visalus ingredients/ They are orgnically grown wherever that can be achieved. You forgot to say whether the plant proteins you mention are NON GMO…. and what do you think Soy is, if not a plant?
      The Soy and Whey content of non GMO Vi is triple refined to aid digestion and to remove the isoflavones – not because there is a real reason to do so but because many people think the isoflavones need removing.. Add to this Lactose, Gluten and Aspartame free and I have to ask if you have a metabolism problem because There are many hundreds of videos on YouTube from people who have been taken off medication and cured of many debilitating illnesses. Strangely, nearly all derogatory comments come from ex distributors who did not succeed in their home business. Vi has amazing results for young, old, sick, healthy and active people so I wonder whether something is preventing your body from metabolising nutrition? Maybe a check up would be in order because after four months of Vi, you should, like the rest of us, have amazing skin, nails, hair, energy and well being.with fantastic bodily functions. Triple refined ensures perfect absorption. Ordinary commercial protein is almost always Genetically Modified.
      You say you are not too good with whey but Vi contains no lactose. Did you make your shakes with ordinary milk?
      I would not touch it because of the antibiotics and chemicals, The cows have hormones pumped into them and are fed Genetically Modified feed, so it’s not good. I use ice and bottled water to avid the fluoride. You see, there’s much in everyday life that could affect you, expecially if you are taking medication. Avoid dead flesh, make your own bread and grow your own vegetables if you have space and a good climate andwhile there are still a few heritage seeds available.
      I’m 75 and after a few days when I ran out of Vi, I felt terrible by comparison. To me it’s the elixir of life. OK so maybe not absolutely 100% perfect but we are being robbed of perfection so it’s the next best thing.

  56. Josh Ranes says:

    I have tried the shakes until, I snapped out of my brain fart. Check out another ingrediant in these shakes. Its near the bottom but its called CHOLECALCIFEROL…I was like, what the heck is that? Just like I said to a bunch of other ingrediants in there, but I looked it up and get this…
    They use it in RAT POISON! Yeah, it kills rats! and they can eat anything. Anyway, great article.

  57. Amber says:

    Here’s a fun fact…if you drank 2 shakes a day, everyday, for 5 years of ViSalus it would barely be enough to fill up a Splenda packet. Just for your info. 🙂 So I hardly think it will hurt you.

  58. Jessica says:

    Sucralose or Splenda is not the one that is bad for you. Actually Splendas molecular structure is almost identical to sugars molecular structure. This article has completely bashed a product that has helped many people lose weight and in turn reverse some serious medical conditions. I hate it when uneducated people post negative aspects that don’t even paint the whole picture. Wow.

  59. Mark Blanton says:

    Trained safety and health protection authorities have concluded from [the scientific] database [on sucralose], that sucralose is a safe food ingredient that can be safely consumed for a lifetime. The paper also notes that these expert independent evaluations resulted in “no limitations for use by any population subtypes,” and, for example, is “safe for use by children and people with diabetes.”

    V. Lee Grotz, Ian C. Munro. An overview of the safety of sucralose. Regulatory Toxicology and Pharmacology 55:1-5, 2009

    Science….. NOT opinion!!!

  60. Mark Blanton says:

    Soyfoods have many nutritional benefits that can contribute to a heart healthy diet. Soyfoods are low in saturated fat and cholesterol-free. According to a statement from the AHA, “soy products such as tofu, soy butter, soy nuts, or some soy burgers should be beneficial to cardiovascular and overall health because of their high content of polyunsaturated fats, fiber, vitamins, minerals and low content of saturated fat and no cholesterol.” The soy protein also has the added benefit of lowering LDL cholesterol and possibly blood pressure.

    FDA conducted thorough scientific analysis of 27 separate studies during 1995-1999 that found soy protein decreased blood cholesterol about an average 3-6% and provided the justification for a health claim. The latest research on soy protein and blood cholesterol continues to confirm the FDA’s decision to approve the health claim for soy and heart disease. For example, a recent review of the original studies used to inform FDA’s decision and of studies conducted since, led by well-known cardiologist Cesare Sirtori, confirmed that the cholesterol-lowering effect held up even when baseline levels of cholesterol were taken into account. Another recent meta-analysis found that soy protein significantly decreases total cholesterol, LDL cholesterol, and triglycerides, and increases HDL cholesterol. In a recent clinical trial, women with metabolic syndrome who ate soyfoods were able to decrease their LDL cholesterol levels by 5-10%.

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  62. mtblantonjr says:

    Just came across this article about proteins that has a direct relation to ViSalus shake proteins…. You may have to copy, remove the spaces, and paste into your browser…. This is for those of you that have NOT done your own research into proteins (not getting into the sucralose issue in this post because that has been PROVEN safe, once again)… Check this out: http: //www . muscleandfitness . com/nutrition/gain-mass/yes-and-no-soy

  63. trish says:

    anyone who wants to do any type of wait loss should first go to their family doctor, in saying that visalus promoters urge everyone to take the product to their doctor first before starting. I have been on and am a promoter for visalus for over a year and I am inlove with this product. I not only took it to my family doctor but I also took it to a center for nutrition and weight management and they all said visalus was one of the best products they have seen on the market. Its all about educating yourself people, if your struggle with weight loss you must educate and change your life nothing can change you but you visalus is only a tool your contractor in sense. Good luck!

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      BOOM! Thanks Ryan. 🙂

      “Consumer watchdog group Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI) has downgraded sucralose (known by the brand name Splenda) from a “safe” rating to “caution” in its Chemical Cuisine guide after an Italian laboratory found the sweetener caused leukemia in mice.”

  64. Jan says:

    For my money I prefer the Sisel Diet Shake. Sure…..it is a product from an MLM Company, however, I’m simply a preferred customer. The shake contains Resistant Maltodextrin and does have a combination of natural and artificial ingredients. Sweetened with Stevia Leaf. I believe in the founder of the company and have been using products he formulated for another company for over 16years with no adverse effects in any shape or form. Why wouldn’t I choose this shake?

  65. Tina says:

    Why don’t all of these Visalus Reps tell you a little more about the new controversy about their products containing LEAD??? I am a Distributor for Skinny Fiber by Skinny Body Care, a 100% all natural plant based, chemical/stimulant/caffeine supplement with tons of health benefits & no side effects, so safe even children & teens can take it… It is helping chronic pain, & so many health issues I’d be here all day listing them. So you can check out all of the info here: https://www.facebook.com/notes/tina-lee-arnold/common-questions-just-what-is-skinny-fiber-read-on/521700974509164

    • mtblantonjr says:

      We don’t tell it because it does NOT EXIST! There is NO lead in our products Trish. The only people trying to stir that pot are Ocean Avenue ppl that left (or were terminated) from Vi to try to cash in on the next big thing. U apparently need to do ur research too.

  66. TJC says:

    Ridiculous and over the top with the dramatic use of words!

    Funny the company and cofounders you’re describing received multiple industry awards last year and was the #1 company for percentage of growth for all Direct Sales companies on the planet!

    Just say’in! 🙂

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      I have looked into Ocean Ave and they seem like a good option — although I can’t vouch for their ingredient quality. I also have enjoyed NOW Food’s protein powders and will be reviewing those this week, stay tuned!

    • mtblantonjr says:


      Vi products would not have made ur headaches worse. Most of the ones I’ve helped actually had their headaches decreased or stopped with Vi…. Just sayin’

  67. RG says:

    Great article. Interesting comments and hype and typical MLM type bullying by the Visalus gang. I was pushing 50 and just hit 300 pounds. I had health issues galore and ate what I thought was an OK diet but processed food was overboard. I was getting dizzy, had chest pains and high blood pressure and was seeing spots in front of my eyes every time I stood up, it was time to change. I changed how I eat . . . period! I cut out all grains, dairy, pop, juices, any and all sweeteners, no more starches like potatoes or rice and I never again touched any form of processed food like products, strong, black, french pressed coffee is my only vice, good or bad I am keeping this guilty pleasure. I eat raw or slightly cooked veggies, I eat salads with fruit (squeezed lemon for dressing) and I eat meat of every kind, organic and grass fed when I can find it and a variety of nuts as treats. Coconuts are my favorite things because they give me Coconut oil and coconut water and I must admit to having a bit of an addiction to it. I lost 80 pounds in 7 months. I felt great, I was able to then start to exercise without hurting my joints and now I am very much into Crossfit and hiking again. My aches and pains are almost gone and I rarely ever get sick. My blood pressure is fine, my weight has remained constant except for a one month period.

    I had a friend I used to trust for health and fitness advice that got really heavy into the Visalus “BMW” money rules world and he convinced me to start Visalus (I guess my weight loss on my own was not good enough and because I trusted him, I gave in). I gained 24 pounds in 4 weeks, I had headaches and felt hung over all the time, I tossed that crap into the dumpster and everything went back to normal and weight is back to where I like it at 220.

    I imagine if I was that fat man of 300 pounds eating garbage 3 times a day like I used to, Visalus might have made a difference in the beginning for weight loss (so would coconut milk, banana and other fresh fruit blended for breakfast) but no way in hell would I consider it part of any healthy eating lifestyle. Everything I have researched and learned directs me to the lifestyle of only eating Organic real food / whole food and Visalus is neither of those. I feel bad for my friend pushing this junk which is taking a bite out of his reputation as a person with good health advice to share and many people stopped looking to him for health tips, but in the mean time he is driving a nice BMW and has a lot more money than I do so it must be worth the credibility hit to him.

  68. AG says:

    Any thoughts or opinion on the Arbonne Essentials products? They have a chocolate & vanilla protein powder using green peas, brown rice, and cranberry protein…

    • Jan says:

      I must say I do agree…….real food is better. Shakes really are a big fad at the moment, and even though I do use them at times (for convenience) I certainly couldn’t rely on them as an everyday food source. Most people who lose weight with the shakes, very quickly regain that weight when they stop using them. However, I do believe in supplementing the diet with quality vitamins and minerals, especially trace minerals, simply because much of our food is grown in soils depleted of trace elements and without these trace minerals, vitamins, either through food sources or supplementation cannot be utilised by our body.

    • Jan says:

      I have found Arbonne products (overall) to be expensive. Information from a reliable source (an ex distributor) leads me to believe that the products are not completely free from potentially harmful or carcinogenic ingredients.
      I have also noticed that some Arbonne products may be purchased from my Amazon website bhealthybfit.com

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Hi AG,

      So first thing I noticed is that it’s expensive! 30 servings for $65 and a serving is only 20g of protein (most protein shakes are 24g+). That’s over $2.10 a serving!! Yikes.

      As for the ingredients, I like that they use real sugar (although not organic so it’s almost guaranteed to be GMO) but look at how much they use — 9 GRAMS in each serving! Double yikes! Other ingredients I’m not fond of would be the cheap sunflower oil, GMO corn starch, inulin (fake fiber!), and a crap load of fillers/emulsifiers/thickening agents: xanthan gum, gum acacia, and guar gum.

  69. RG says:

    I just don’t understand why people don’t just make their own with ingredients they source and buy if they really need that magic shake. The fresh fruit and coconut or almond or hemp milk is 95% of the value of a shake, so find a good non pre mixed protein powder at any health store and add it to your fruit and you have your very own Healthy shake without added crap and unknown effects.

  70. freetobemetoo says:

    I am a former ViSalus Promoter whose health has suffered greatly from ingesting the fake sugar and processed soy ingredients in this product. ..thank you for starting this much needed forum. I have tried to research this and apparently the Visalus Techies have manipulated the search engines by making the Visalus Scam topic into their own selling agenda…smart move, I must say, personally, I believe what you put out there will come back to you triple fold. So, watch your back if you are still with the Visalus company pushing their poor quality product to unsuspecting customers who are ignorant of the health risks..(go see Dr Oz’s site on this subject) It’s not worth it..If I don’t believe in a product or feel a company is being devious, I cannot sell it. I have a conscience and thankfully I am not greedy to make a buck .

  71. Christ's Ambassador says:

    i’d like to respond to Stacie’s question about having lupus. Silica causes lupus. If you cut all silica and forms of it out of your diet and products, you should experience healing. Your body should rebuild itself with real food ingredients after a while. I hope this helps you. Respond here if you want more information. Christ’s Ambassador

    • Beth says:

      I’m sure all the lupus sufferers on this forum will be thrilled to find out if they only stop eating sand and/or glass (silica), they will immediately be cured of their auto-immune disease. Almost, but not quite, the most ridiculous thing I’ve heard this week (right up there with “Visalys is 100% natural.”

        • Christ's Ambassador says:

          Well, I guess it is a cause for rejoicing! Everyone who suffers from rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, and fibromyalgia would benefit from not eating sand and glass in the forms of silicone dioxide and using products with -methicone in the ingredients. The body rejuvenates over time. It’s no life style change, just product replacement. For example, choose Mediterranean salt over salt with silicone dioxide. (I don’t sell anything; this is just an example.)

          • Marion says:

            Let’s put this straight! Fibromyalgia, Lupus, Rheumatoid arthritis, Crohn’s, Diabetes, Psorasis, Kidney disease, and many many other ailments HAVE been cured or relieved by Vi Shakes. (all on YouTube) Some have been in my own family while others are in people I have come to know through ViSalus. What most people, who have commented on this site ,seem to ignore is that there are many types of physiolgy so it’s not rocket science to deduce that the same products, ingredients, and rules do not apply to or suit everyone. If you are not in the same group as people who see the benefits of Vi Shakes then stop criticising. Research and find what you need instead of using your own difference as a vehicle for knocking something that suits the majority of others. Know it alls, arrogance, many borderline libellous remarks, etc., only feed small mindedness and ignorance and invite nonsense from people who need to get a life. If someone asks for an opinion or advice, respond, otherwise who gives a toss about Arbonne, Herbal Life, Cambridge, Lighter Life or anything else, if you are not using it.. All will have some benefits for some people. Take what you like and let others do the same. Better that you fight about chemtrails and basic GMO sugar loaded American bread, breakfast cereals, etc. (a new VI Crunch cereal has just been released)

            Meanwhile, good luck with whatever you decide or need to take. Look in the mirror and if you see past bad choices hanging over your belt or bulging round your butt, take almost any reputable diet. My friend has lost 140lbs and is half way through her third 90 Day Challenge with Vi.. The woman who claimed to have lost only 6lbs in 90 days was clearly not serious. If you replace 2 meals a day with a liquid diet . any liquid diet, weight will drop off. ViSalus always, always, tells you to drink 2 litres of water a day and eat fresh fruit and vegetables. This is not a ketosis diet. People who believe they are allergic to soy are finding that the triple refined soy and whey content is actually acceptable, hence the lady on film. who was due to have a kidney removed but decided instead to give Vi a try and gained normal kidney function, is testament to the quality and to the suitability for her.

            As for knocking MLM and Nick Sarnicola (previous posts) the stupid remarks about pyramid schemes is ridiculous. They are illegal. Vi is designed so that peope lower down the ladder an benefit rather than just the people at the top. ….. it spreads outwards not just up! Nick is an incredibly clever man with an amazing talent for making Vi work for everyone who is prepared to work for themselves and others. No company wants an inexperienced or inefficient person.heading sales. He has done a remarkable job and he and his wife work and tour non-stop to meet with customers and promoters on both sides of the pond. The benefits and rewards for helping others are way beyond what other companies offer and have rattled a lot of cages since they overtook all the competition. Clever marketing/ Yes! Reliable product? Yes! (if it suits your individual needs.) . Working immune system suits me. That’s what it’s all about….. Life, Health and Prosperity. If you don’t like that………NEXT!.

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  73. Jeff says:

    I’ve read quite a few of the Posts on this site. The reality is, there is no silver bullet. If you want good health and vitality there is only one thing you need to know. Fresh organic, pesticide free, chemical free,GMO free, toxic free raw fruits and vegetables in it’s simplest form. Growing your own is the best. If you need to increase your nutrient intake, juice them. This is the food your body recognizes as food and will give you the highest benefit and return. The truth is most people don’t do this unfortunately because of either lack of knowledge, it takes work, time and can be potentially more expensive. Who makes money when you are benefitting from highly nutritious low calorie food from your own back yard. It’s not all these different specific foods and supplements that protect you against disease and sickness, it’s your own immune system. If you put the highest grade of good quality food into your body, your body will do the rest. I’m just putting it out there, do your own research.

  74. Mark Blanton says:


    I wanted to get your opinion (even tho we have agreed to disagree) on our brand new product designed to help people on their Challenge. It is the “Vi Crunch” transformation protein super cereal. The main reason I am mentioning it, is because it contains a Fi- sorb (five protein) protein blend which does not include soy. It is also sweetened with Stevia and 3 grams of cane sugar. It is gonna be awesome to help those that need to “chew” their food. The best way to get you the info is to ask you to check out: www. crunch.vi . com (remove the spaces). The nutritional info should be on there. If not, I can email it to ya 🙂

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Hi Mark! So the gist of this product sounds promising — but I couldn’t find an ingredients list anywhere on the website, in the Fact Sheet, or in the FAQ’s…

      Do you have that info?

      • mtblantonjr says:

        I can send that info to ya. I have it on my computer at home. Shoot me an email at mtblantonjr @ gmail. Com or post urs here and I’ll get it to ya this afternoon.

        Mark Blanton

  75. Micah says:

    All I have to say is that I was a Vi user, I mean it was ok 3 months lost 10 pounds, but gained it all back ans didn’t like the taste of it. I found something better called Yoli’s Better Body System it work better than Vi, lost 7 pounds in 7 days, and 17 pounds and 12 inches lost overall in 30 days with no exercise. I started last October and till this day I’m down 35 and more than 15 inches lost and I kept it off. Best thing about the system you eat REAL FOOD- protein, good fats, and complex carbs. All I can say is that there’s so much ignorant people in the world, I mean if you are happy with what your doing then don’t stop more power to you and your health. Yoli deals with Alkalinity and dealing with acidity in your body. Yoli for life.

  76. anonymous says:

    Maybe you should get your facts straight before bashing someones product. Are you a dr? No , i bet your not. Let me tell you my dr were very happy to see me use this product and in fact going to recommend it to all of their other diabetic patients. The only garbage in this product is that coming out of your mouth!!! When you finally educate yourself properly on visalus then you can spew it. Until then get your facts straight

    • Sandra says:

      I have been using Visalus shake since october 2012, and I have absolutely no side effect. Or better say : NO BAD side effect, Only GOOD. :).
      I have IBS (google it) since 2004, Doctor told me to live with it and there is no cure, he also gave a list to follow as my diet. Every single thing on that list was a trigger to my IBS symptoms. Since then I was on a hunt not for cure but for anything that would make it easier and bearable. I have taken supplements, enzymes, probiotics, multivitamins, been on Gluten free & lactose free diets, acupuncture….. Wrote every single thing that I would eat or drink during the day so that I can keep track of foods that hurt me, and combination of foods that hurt me or not.
      I did tones and tones on research I could have started my own blog, I have enough knowledge, I am a bit of research freak, I have to get to bottom of everything. I read good and bad, I take it all, and then make conclusions.
      I even developed rheumatoid arthritis (which is as AID). I was eating less and less and feeling weaker and weaker as my body didn’t get any proper nutrition an the list of food I can’t eat was growing…and growing…and growing. I was slave to bathrooms, cramps, gas, pain, weakness, muscle loss…… I can go on….

      Then I tried Visalus shake. I thought: hey, nothing to loose. Did my research (off-course)

      My IBS symptoms are almost gone. I lost 15lbs, not much-righ? but that’s exactly what I needed. Plus quite a few inches. I have regained lean muscle, I can climb stairs again, I can run with kids, I can swim and dance again. And I can travel without worry and without searching for the exit or bathroom signs. I can actually EAT MORE FOOD, more VERSATILE food then ever in the last 9 years, I can enjoy life again. Vi-shake is not a miracle cure, its well balanced nutrition that is easily and properly absorbed.
      For me personally, it is a little miracle. I am still taking 2 a day (I do cheat from time time) and feel fantastic.
      It workes for me, and I personally know many many people that are more then happy with it.

      1.This “expert” blogger is only one of many who get paid to bash other products.
      2.Yes, there is an Ingredient list on visalus’s site and on every product that they make. From where else did she get the ingredients that she mentioned above. If you do your own research you will also find the amounts of those ingredients.
      3.This “expert” blogger mentioning headaches and migraines as severe symptoms of taking a shake. I get headaches from reading bull… like that. There are scientific medications out there that have same and worst symptoms. There are people dying from all kind of medications that are prescribed by doctors. But that’s OK, right?
      4. On the comment about how the spoke women looks like, this is what I have to say, She looks healthy and comfortable in her own skin. Our “expert” was saying something like shouldn’t she look all nice & fit? Well if it was like that, shouldn’t all doctors be healthy all the time, never get sick, stay active till they dye since they are THE doctors. Still:
      There are crazy doctors selling medications to make you feel good,
      There are sick doctors giving you medications to make you healthy.

      People get so uptight about a nutritional milk shake, that has a well balance nutrients that your body needs. yet they forget to read the labels and ask the ingredients on Big Mac, or the what kind of oil is used to make french fires in any fast food restaurant, or for how long is that oil actually boiling and how many portions are fried in it.
      And how much sugar is added to any salad dressing you buy in the store, which you consider a heathy meal.
      Meat from animals that are feed with antibiotics and all kind of medication.

      If people were asking these questions, there wouldn’t be 67% of obese people in north America. There wouldn’t be so many cancer cases, There wouldn’t be so many heart attacks, ADS, amongst people and even sadder amongst the kids. We would be a healthy nation.

      So there is a new product on the market that can help people get healthy or improve their health
      Visalus shakes are healthier then most of the food you buy in the grocery store (yes even the organic ones).
      Visalus promotes healthy eating and exercise plans as a part of healthy life styles.

      P.S. Do not fear of soy protein in it. The “dangerous” part in it, regarding estrogen-receptive cancer patients, is ISOFLAVON which is estrogen type of hormone, is removed from it. There are Many cancer survivors that are using the shake to get food nutritions into their bodies especially after devastating effects of chemo therapy

      Have a great day

      • Natasha (Domestica) says:

        Sandra, I wish you would look into the Specific Carbohydrate Diet. It would cure your IBS, as it has for many of my clients and friends. You can search SCD on my site for more info (or google it). I trust the science behind it will make a lot of sense to you. And it takes the guesswork out of your flare-ups.

        • Sandra says:

          As I said, I was on Lactose & Gluten free diet. which is very similar to SCD.

          I do not drink any soda drinks (not even mineral water). I have one coffee a day with no sugar, and I drink water & tea only (mostly oolong and/or green tea)
          I do not eat any fast food, deep fried, processed food, I occasionally eat a piece of cake (not to offend person that made it) to avoid sugar intake (which is causing inflammations). I cook at home, and I was going to gluten free restaurants and the ones that are flexible with their menu I could easily adapt meals according to what I can and can not eat.
          Many times I would eat at home before going to a dinner where I knew there would not be food for me. My friends knew my condition and they would always prepare something that I could eat so that I could enjoy their company while eating together.

          As per SCD these are allowed Vegetables, More then half of this veggies were the triggers to my IBS symptoms,
          asparagus, beets, broccoli, brussel sprouts, cabbage, cauliflower, carrots, celery, cucumbers, eggplant, garlic, kale, lettuce, mushrooms, onions, peas, peppers, pumpkin, spinach, squash, string Beans, tomatoes and watercress.

          So, trust me, no help there. At least not for me. I’m sure it helped others, and that is great. But just because it is not good for me I am not saying that it is not good diet.
          Now, I can eat almost everything. I mix fruits or veggies in my 2 shakes per day, I have healthy snacks in between, and a full (healthy) meal in the evening.

      • Marion says:

        We seem to share a similar view of Visalus shakes. I have never ever heard personally of one negative physical reaction. These are all provable cures … you can’t argue with these results and there are huge numbers of people willing to verify their experiences.

        IBS, Psoriasis, Fibromyalgia, ME, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Arthritis and other inflammatory complaints, Diabetes 1 and 2, Kidney Disease (Young woman du do to have malfunctioning kidney removed but told consultant to wait while she tried Vi Shakes. 4 weeks later her kidney function was normal.) Thyroidism and many many more. Visalus makes none of these claims. They are unsolicited testimonials.

        I’m sorry for the people.who listen to negative people. They are generally, ill informed, promoting something else or bone idle.

        Visalus use organic ingredients wherever they can source them. Dr Michael Siedman is one of America’s top nutritionists and was part of the team that developed this Health Supplement. They never ever claimed the product is the most perfect that can be produced but their integrity is such that it’s the very best that they can produce and that does what it says,,while having regard to the American taste.

        The new Vi Crunch is being made with stevia and not corn syrup……. because they know and understand that people have a preference. This is a young company, still evolving and, for American people in general, it’s a darned site better than their normal diet. It’s making people aware of the dangers of obesity, The aim is to take weight off the world, to feed undernourished people and to improve people’s financial situation, if that’s what they want. Ask any 350lb person if they would be happy to get healthy and lose weight…….but go searching for organic groceries, having studied nutrition, and they’ll turn the other way. Most of the other diet foods taste vile. Vi is a great way to start a transformation while developing willpower and changing old habits.

        Can anyone name another diet product that has a 90 Day results money back guarantee? Is there one that offers cash prizes and incentives for losing the first 10 lbs? Do you know of one that you can get for free after buying your first pack? How many others have donated a million meals to undernourished kids and families? How many CEO’s go out with trucks and give people in deprived areas a turkey for Thanksgiving?

        Vi is a good route to education for intelligent people. Morbidly obese are generally not very bright – this is eezy peezy. The Doctors, Consultants, chiropractors, nutritionists, body builders, personal trainers, health executives, health and safety people, that are now promoting and recommending Vi Shakes, are not fools. They know the score! So if you failed, didn’t have what it takes, or are mixing your shakes with fluoridated water/ice or milk from vaccinated animals, don’t blame anyone but you. Pure bottled water is available everywhere.

        Forgot to mention that there are anti inflammatory benefits and also rejuvenation of dying cells (anti-aging.). Take a look on YouTube at The Science Behind Visalus. Come one. The US is a cesspit of evil at present with organic shops being raided and smashed up by security teams, Amendments to the Constitution being wiped out, police shootings, Wal-Mart, Bee Hives being burned so that foreign species can be introduced, poisoned soil, chemtrails, enforced vaccines in schools with prison for refusing, denial of known cancer cures, etc., etc., and people are bad mouthing a Vi shake. Get real, get fit while you can.

        • Dora Throckmorton says:

          Actually I wanted to contact Anonymous poster, but I appreciate you removing my post with my email address.

          Dora Throckmorton


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  77. Tracy says:

    I think it is interesting that you tell everyone else to get their facts straight and to do the research. For starters I think it is interesting that you have a link “ViSalus ingredients” in the very beginning of this article that is not even an actual “ViSalus” Website. That is a clever independent distributors way of drumming up business. Kuddos to them. Kind of like you bashing ViSalus to drum up business for your own product it appears you are promoting. If you would like the ingredients for ViSalus you can go to shake.vi.com and all of the info is there. It is required by the FDA to list ALL of the ingredients even in the smallest amounts on the shake bag.

    I can’t believe that you are giving advice and bashing other products with no degree in Nutrition or medicine and real facts other than what you have read on the internet and even more sad that people are actually listening to you. I would love to see you challenge the science behind ViSalus and the combined YEARS of fact finding and experience that ViSalus DOCTORS have. lol Would you like me to post their resumes?

    Kuddos to you for taking control of your health after having babies… it’s not always easy for people, but shame on you for PRETENDING to be an authority on any of these products.

    Yes, I am a ViSalus distributor and proud of it, but I NEVER bash other products to benefit my business.

  78. Brooke says:

    The reason Visalus helps with chronic pain is bc if people follow the advised plan they are eliminating inflammatory foods. They are removing a lot if not all gluten which has a dramatic effect on pain. I have seen Visalus work, I have replaced my post workout protein shakes with Visalus and love it. Every shake out there will have blogs both for & against it. Ingredients effect us all differebtly…..in fact while some might be concerned with the soy (hardly measurable btw) in Visalus……it’s a benefit to someone like me who has had an early hysto and have low estrogen levels. So many shakes, so many people……for that reason alone to claim any shake “hazardous” is a bit extreme. I found Visalus to be a lot cleaner than any shake out there. On top of it being a great product….people are making lots of money selling it…why? Because it’s a good product…..in my opinion one if the best ones out there. I myself love it and the clients I put on it have great results. I am a personal trainer and highly recommend this product to someone who needs to loose a lot of weight all the way to men & women who compete and are wanting to gain muscle. I don’t sell it but I use it, recommend it and am thrilled to have found a “cleaner” shake on the market. Plus……it tastes amazing and it had helped with my pain, my hormones and energy.

  79. Hannahlea33 says:

    Body by VI was a big thing in my town a few months ago, I would say at least 75% of women here were doing and it and a lot of men. However, most realized it was all a scam. When they stopped doing the shakes they gained all the weight they had lost back plus some. Visalus does not help you lose weight by teaching you healthy eating and exercise habits, it does it by creating a large calorie deficit.

    • Tracy says:

      Anytime you stop doing any type of program and go back to your old way of doing things you are going to gain weight back. ViSalus is a catalyst for people to want to change their health. If those ppl had a large calorie deficit its because they chose to. Keep in mind most ppl have never been taught how to eat properly. What I see with ViSalus is that because the program is so simple and ppl feel so good using the shakes it prompts them to want to learn more about nutrition and definitely get more active.

    • Marion says:

      If you lose weight with a liquid diet – great! What do you think will happen when you stop it? Your old self indulgent habits put the weight back on. You were supposed to educate yourselves while on the program not return to what made you fat in the first place. A whole town that didn’t get it? Have you ever heard of a calorie controlled diet? You cut out bread, cakes, cookies, pasta, sugar, fried foods and eat healthy fruit and vegetables. Vi shake is loaded with nutrition and you have the option to add more if you want too. Then, of course, you need exercise or did you all stop that, too?

  80. JT says:

    “You shall no longer take things at second or third hand, not look through the eyes of the dead, nor feed on the spectres in books. You shall not look through my eyes either, nor take things from me, you shall listen to all sides and filter them from yourself.” -Walt Whitman

    I went through this blog and I’ve seen a lot of negative and positive things. My wife and girls are intolerant to gluten and my wife gets migraines from gluten and nitrates. We have changed our life styles to a organic less meat more vegetable diet. It’s expensive, but we believe that our bodies are precious.
    This whole blog is talking about research on this one company but there is so much more research of what our government and big cooperations are doing to our food. The FDA is not all that it seems. If you are really trying to lose weight and become more healthy please do your research. If our bodies are natural, then shouldn’t we eat naturally? Any thing processed worries me. I just ask that as a collective people we think about what we put in our bodies and become better than what commercialism says we are.

  81. Mike says:

    http://www.monavie.com/rvlution there is a reaso n this formula was the ONLY one chosen by the IOC for use by Olympians….filled with antioxidants and perfect balance of PFC’s to balance your blood sugar and burn fat and keep the weight off!
    Each shake has 13 servings of fruits and veggies…….

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Hi Mike,

      I checked out the RVL program (and the ingredients list). I like that it incorporates HIIT exercise and personalized meal plans to keep people eating good food (since many people will just rely on a calorie deficit of a shake in the morning so they can continue eating crap the rest of the day!). That said, the ingredients list wasn’t *perfect*. But it wasn’t as bad as I’ve seen either! I would say this is one of the better products I’ve seen…too bad about the cheap sunflower oils though.

  82. Joni Walker says:

    Just out of curiosity, can you recommend a clean type of protein powder? I use Visalus as well – my next appt w/ my nutritionist is next month but she’s always pushing her products on me – suggestions?

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Hi Joni. I have a few products that I think are worth using (and have tried myself). For a plant-based protein, I recommend Vega Sport. For whey protein, I recommend TerasWhey. I also hear GREAT things about Sun Warrior protein powders (http://www.sunwarrior.com/product-info/warrior-blend/).

      If you can’t afford these higher end protein powders, NOW Sports Whey Concentrate (not isolate) is pretty good but just be mindful of the ingredients lists (as some of their protein powders have artificial sweeteners and even the ones without artificial sweeteners have xylitol, which I’m not a huge fan of).

      • Joni Walker says:

        Hi Natasha – thx for the reply …. I should have read through ALL of the replies before I asked the question in repetition in this blog. With all of the nasty comments to each other, I didn’t comfortable getting to the bottom. I’ve just finished a container of Sun Warrior (I alternate)…. I’m not too good with whey, I’ve tolerated Vi but in using for 4 months – I’ve not noticed any healthful chgs (being 56 is a challenge with the hormones). I haven’t tried Vega but sure will now – for my digestion, I’ve always preferred plant protein – it just makes sense! Thanks again for all your kind efforts!

  83. Sandra says:

    This is the list of products that continues Sucralose/Splenda as sweetener. Have any of you ever used any of these products? Check the list and check you cabinets, I am sure you are using some of these on regular bases. All of them have way more Sucralose then VI-shake, yet they are not mentioned here.
    Did anybody ever heard of anybody going blind from eating sugar free Jell-o, Klondike Ice cream bar, V-8 splash juice, Gummy bears, sugar free gums Trident, Yogurt Dannon Light, Slim Fast low carb, Cool Whip sugar free, Hershey’s chocolate syrup etc…. etc….


    Advocare International Heart Source Bar
    Aloe Splash Kiwi Lemon Lime Kiwi Strawberry Mountain Berry Orange Mango
    Apple Juice Lucky Leaf
    Applesauce Musselman’s No Sugar Added
    AriZona Iced Coffee Latte Supreme Mocha Latte
    AriZona Net No-Carb Green Teas, Blueberry, White Cranberry Apple
    Atkin’s Advantage Protein bars (Almond Brownie Chocolate Coconut Chocolate Macadamia Nut Chocolate Peanut Butter Chocolate Raspberry Chunky Peanut Butter Praline Crunch)
    Atkins Diet Products
    Atkins Diet Shake Cappuccino Chocolate Strawberry Vanilla
    Atkins ice cream bars
    Atkins Syrups 7 flavors

    Banana Bread Mix by Davedraper.com
    Banana muffins, low-carb
    Beverage, FloridaGold Light ‘N Tasty (Orange Juice with Calcium, Lemonade, Fruit Punch, Apple Juice Beverage)
    Beverage, Hood Carb CountdownTM Homogenized Dairy Beverage (Chocolate 2% Reduced Fat, 2% Reduced Fat, Fat Free, Homogenized)
    Beverage, Renée Sparkling (Bold Black Cherry, Juicy Strawberry, Luscious Peach, Wild Raspberry)
    Beverage, Satietrol Appetite Control Beverage (Vanilla) by Pacific Health Labs
    Beverage, TKE Monster Food Muscle Quencher Nexxus Fat Burning Whey Protein
    Beverage, Tropicana Twister Light (Cranberry, Raspberry, Strawberry, Pink Grapefruit Cocktail, Tropical Strawberry)
    Beverages, Swiss Miss Hot chocolate Mix
    Beverages, Swiss Miss No Sugar Added Hot Cocoa Mix
    Beverages, Swiss Natural Diet Icy Berry® Diet Lemon Icy Tea® Diet Peach Icy Tea®
    Beverages, Wylers Light Soft Drink Mixes
    Big Red Beverage
    Blue Luna Café Lite Café Mocha Coffee Drink
    Blueberry Pancake Mix by Davedraper.com
    Bodyonics Androstat – 100 Poppers Cool Mint Licorice Wildberry by Pinnacle Products
    Bomber Blend Protein Powder Cookies by Davedraper.com
    Bread, Good Hearth Carb Action Wheat Bread
    Bulk Candy, NSA Sugar free

    California Engineered Foods California Protein
    Candy, Atkins
    Candy, Spray Various flavors
    Candy, sugar free low-carb
    Cascade Ice Drinks, Only 2 Calories
    Cheesecake: Heavenly Cheesecakes
    Chemi-Source, Inc Metabolic Response Modifiers CreActiv
    Chocolate Syrup, Sugar Free Hershey’s (Acesulfate)
    Clearly Canadian Carbonated Beverage Diet (Blackberry, Cherry, Lemon)
    Coca Cola C2
    Coffee creamers
    Coffee Mate Non Dairy Creamers, Sugar free
    Coke, diet
    Cola, D’Best, Diet Family Dollar
    Cola, Diet (Monarch)
    Cola, Diet RC
    Cola, Upstate Diet Cola (fountain)
    Cola, Virgin diet
    Cookies, Pure Protein™ (Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough, Chocolate Covered Coconut, Chocolate Covered Peanut Butter)
    Cookies, South Beach Living 100 cal/serving
    Cookies, Wilson’s Fantastic Mini Wafers
    Cool Whip (Sugar Free)
    Creamsicle, Sugar Free (Popsicle brand)
    Crystal Clear Sugar Free Sparkling Water (Lemon Lime, Mixed Berry, Peach Raspberry)
    Crystal Light Soft Drink Mix and juices
    Cytomax Exercise and Recovery Drink (Peachy Keen, Tangy Orange)

    Daily Juice Products Diet Guzzler (Cranberry, Raspberry, Kiwi, Strawberry)
    Daily’s Diet Margarita Mix and Diet Strawberry Daiquiri Mix
    Dental Gum for Kids by Arm & Hammer
    Diet Pills, Xenadrine
    Drink Mix by Davedraper.com
    Drink Mix Protein Revolution
    Drink, Capri Sun Roaring Waters Beverage
    Drink, Diet Star: Cola Grape Lemon Lime Orange Root Beer
    Drink, Kool-Aid Jammers
    Drink, Tropical Punch Kool-Aid Jammer
    Drink, Kool Aid Singles all flavors
    Drink, Lipton To Go, Zero Calorie Iced Tea Mixes
    Drink, Perfect Zero Carb Isopure (Alpine Punch, Icy Orange)
    Drink, Propel Gatorade water
    Drink, Red Bull, Sugar Free Energy Drink
    Drink, Rivella, Diet
    Drink, Snapple Diet RC® (Cola, Kiwi Strawberry, Red Raspberry, Tangerine, White Grape )
    Drink, Snapple, Diet
    Drink, Sorbee (Blueberry, Chocolate, Maple, Strawberry)
    Drink, Spiced Cider, Alpine (Krusteaz brand) Sugar Free
    Drink, Squeezed Nectars™ Diet Lemon Tea Nantucket Nectars

    EAS Ribforce HP Effervescent Creative
    Egg Nog by Davedraper.com
    Energy Drink, Green Dragon Sugar Free
    Energy Drink, Rockstar Zero Carb Drinks
    Extra Protein Bars (Cinnamon Swirl, Devil’s Food Cake, Peanut Crunch) SportPharma

    Fitness Labs Whey Protein 80 by Fitness Labs Nutrition
    Fitness Labs Whey Protein 90 (Fruit Punch, Grape, Orange) by Fitness Labs Nutrition
    Flavored Syrups 12 flavors by Hammer Corporation
    Flavored Water: Fruit 20
    Flintstones Children’s Vitamins
    French Vanilla: Entner Stuart flavorings
    Fruit20 by VeryFine
    Fuel Plex Chocolate Strawberry Vanilla Twin Lab
    Fuel Plex Lite Chocolate Strawberry Vanilla Twin Lab
    Fuze, Healthy Infusion Drinks (Ace-K)

    G2 Gatorade
    General Foods International On the Go Vanilla Latte, Swiss Mocha and Latte mixes
    Gum, Trident for Kids™ Sugarless Gum Berry Bubble Gum
    Gum, Metabolift Diet Cinnamon Burst
    Gum, Trident, Extra, Dentyne and Doublemint (Acesulfate-K)
    Gummy Bears Goelite Jelly Belly

    Hansen’s sodas, diet
    Hansen’s Smoothie Cranberry Raspberry Lite
    Hawaiian Punch Light
    High protein Cereal Bars by South Beach Living
    Hot chocolate No Sugar Added, Flavorite

    Ice Botanicals Talking Rain Diet (Cranberry, Raspberry, Key Lime, Kiwi Strawberry, Melon, Berry)
    Ice Cream Bar, Breyers Carb Smart
    Ice Cream Bar, Fudge Bar Klondike® CarbSmartTM
    Ice Cream Bar, Klondike® CarbSmartTM
    Ice Cream Bar, Vanilla Ice Cream Sandwich Klondike® CarbSmartTM
    Ice Cream, Breyer’s Low-carb
    Ice Cream, Breyers® CarbSmartTM Ice Cream: Vanilla, Chocolate, Strawberry
    Ice Cream, Dreyer’s Slow Churned No Sugar Added
    Ice Cream, Edy’s
    Ice Cream, Molli Coolz Ice Cream all flavors
    Ice Cream, Skinny Cow
    Ice Cream, Whitey’s
    Ice Fruit Bars, Dreyers
    Iced coffee liquid mix
    Infant Gas Relief Drops Little Tummy’s by Little Remedies (Couldn’t help myself, had to underline the foods fed to INFANTS!)
    Infant Laxative Drops, Little Tummy’s by Little Remedies
    Infant/Child Pedialyte singles oral electrolyte solution

    Jams, Jellies, Preserves Smucker’s sugar free
    Jell-O sugar free (Acesulfame-K)
    Jelly beans, sugar free
    Juice, Langers diet juices
    Juice, Ocean Spray Lightstyle (CranoGrape, Cranberry Juice Cocktail CranoMango CranoRaspberry)
    Juice, Oceanspray light juices
    Juice, V-8 Splash, diet
    Juice, Kroger Light (Cranberry, Grape Juice Cocktail, Cranberry Juice Cocktail)

    Ketopro Chocolate Fudge Vanilla Crème
    Ketopro High Protein Food Bar Double Fudge Peanut Fudge
    Kettle Corn, Act II
    Kettlecorn, Orville Redenbacher

    Latte, Black Tea DaVinci Sugar Free Spiced
    Lean Mass Pro35 Protein Drink Chocolate Vanilla by ProLab
    Life Services Supplements by Davedraper.com
    Low Carb/High Protein Bar by Davedraper.com

    M2 Power-Play Lemon
    Margarita Mix BaJa Bob’s Original Sugar Free Strawberry Sugar Free Margarita Mix
    Maximum Human Performance TRAC® Powder Supplement
    Meal Replacement Bars, Pure Protein™ (Blueberry Cheesecake, Cappuccino, Chewy Chocolate Chip, Chocolate Deluxe, Peanut Butter) by Worldwide Sport Nutrition
    Meal Replacement by Davedraper.com
    Meal Replacement, Metabolift High Protein, Low Carb (Deep Chocolate, Peaches ‘N Crème, Vanilla Bean)
    Metabolic Thyrolean Soy Protein Chocolate Vanilla ProLab
    Metamucil, Orange Flavored (Nutrasweet)
    Mints, Eclipse (Ace-K)
    Muscle Provider Drink Mix by Beverly International Nutrition
    MuscleMeals by MuscleLink

    Nature’s Flavors Syrups Over 40 Flavors
    Naturlyte Oral Electrolyte Solution Apple Bubble Gum Fruit Grape Unflavored
    NesQuick No Sugar Added Instant Flavor Drinks
    Nutra Force Vitamin & Mineral Water Cherry Berry Lemon Lime Orange Passion Fruit
    Nutrition bar, Ultimate Lo Carb by Biochem

    One-A-Day Kids Vitamins (Bugs Bunny and Scooby Doo)
    Optimum Muscle Defense by Optim Nutrition
    Oral Electrolyte Solution Apple Unflavored by Gerber
    Oral Electrolyte Solution, Revital Squeers® Four flavors by PTS Labs
    Oscar Mayer Lunchables containing Capri Sun Roaring Waters
    beverage with Splenda and / or Kool Aid singles with sucralose

    Pedialyte Oral Electrolyte Solution Fruit Punch Grape Unflavored Pedialyte Pops
    Pepsi Edge
    Pepsi, Diet
    Pickles, Nalley’s Sugar Free Sweet Gherkins
    Pineapple, Libby’s sliced
    Popsicle, Sugar Free (Popsicle brand)
    Port-A-Meal Muscle Provider by Beverly International Nutrition
    PowerBar® Pria® Carb SelectTM (Peanut Butter, Caramel Nut, Caramel Nut Brownie, Cookies n’ Caramel)
    Pro Fusion Tropical Vanilla by MuscleLink
    Pro50 Meal Supplement Just Vanilla Strawberry Surge Triple Shot Chocolate by Met-Rx Anabolic Drive Series
    Protein Bar, Double Chocolate by PowerBar® ProteinPlusTM Carb SelectTM
    Protein Bars, Chocolate Peanut Butter PowerBar® ProteinPlusTM Carb SelectTM
    Protein Bar, Protein Revolution Low Carb Bars (Apple Cinnamon, Spice Cake, Chocolate Fudge, Almond Chocolate, Hazelnut Crunch, Peanut Butter and Jelly)
    Protein Bar, Pure protein
    Protein Bar, Source One Bars
    Protein Drink Mix, (Chocolate ,Vanilla) by Methoxy – Pro
    Protein Drink, Ultra Size (Chocolate, Vanilla) by Beverly International Nutrition
    Protein Drink: Bionutritional Research Group ProtoWhey Protein Drink Mix
    Protein Mix, Perfect Zero Carb Isopure (Strawberry, Vanilla)
    Protein or Nutrition Bars, Low Carb
    Protein Plus High Protein Food Bar Chocolate Fudge Chocolate Roasted Peanut
    Protein Powder, Just Whey Protein Powder Chocolate Vanilla SportPharma
    Keto Low Carb Ice Cream by Davedraper.com
    Protein Powder, Pro Builder Scientific Solution Sugar Free (EZ Energy Sugar Free, EZ Memory)
    Protein Powder, Promax (Dutch Chocolate, French Vanilla) SportPharma
    Protein Powder, Simply Whites Whey Plex 100% Whey Protein by Bioplex Nutrition
    Pro-Xtreme Wellness International Network, Ltd.
    Q R

    Riteway Diet by Sportron International

    Salad Dressing: Carb Solutions
    Salad Dressings, Walden Farms Calorie Free Salad Dressings 6 flavors Aurora Foods, Inc.
    Shake by Davedraper.com
    Shake, EAS Advant Edge Carb-Control
    Shake, Perfect Low Carb Isopure Dutch Chocolate
    Shake, Pure Protein™ (Strawberry Cream, Strawberry Short Cake, White Chocolate Mousse)
    Shake, Ultimate Lo Carb (Chocolate, Vanilla) by Biochem
    Slender Age Chocolate Vanilla by Nutrition for Life
    Slim Fast, Low-carb
    Slim Jones™ Diet Soda (Black Cherry, Cream, Fufu Berry, Lime, Cola, Orange)
    Smoothie, Ultimate Lo Carb (Chocolate Vanilla) by Biochem
    Smoothie, VHT Extreme (Chocolate, Vanilla)
    Snuff: Smokey Mountain Snuff (non-tobacco) Cherry
    SoBe Lean™ (Citrus Diet, Green Tea Diet, Orange Carrot Diet, Peach Tea, Peach Mango, Tropical)
    Soda Soft Drink, Jones bottled sodas (sugar-free)
    Soda Soft Drink, Shasta Diet
    Soda Soft Drink, Waist Watcher Diet Carbonated (Black Cherry, Cola, Ginger Ale, Orange, Vanilla Cream)
    Soda Soft Drink, White Rock Diet (Cola, Ginger Ale, Lemon Lime)
    Soda, Root beer, diet Boylans
    Soda, Root beer, diet Briar’s
    Sorbee Cookies (Animal Crackers, Chocolate Chip, Chocolate Fudge, Oatmeal, Peanut Butter)
    Soy milk, WestSoy Soy Slender (Vanilla, Chocolate and Cappuccino)
    Splenda packets of sugar substitute
    Sundown Soy Protein Shake Powder Natural Chocolate by Rexall Sundown
    Syrup, Blueberry Maple Estee Smart Treats Sugar Free
    Syrup, Cary’s Sugar free
    Syrup, DaVinci Sugar Free Flavored Syrups Creme de Menthe
    Syrup, Maple Grove Farms Sugar free
    Syrup, Sugar Free by Maple Grove Farms
    Syrup, Vermont Sugar Free
    Syrup, Log Cabin Sugar Free Low Calorie Syrup

    Taffy: Taffetti Sugar Free Taffy Chocolate Chip
    Talking Rain, Diet Ice Botanicals Drink
    Tea, Lipton Diet Iced Tea Mixes
    Tortilla, Soft Flour Mission Carb Balance
    Tylenol Simply Stuffy Cold Medicine for children

    VHT Totally Ripped Dietary Supplement (Fruit Punch, Grape, Orange) by Nature’s Best
    Vitamins, Flintstones
    Vitamins, Sundown Pokemon Vitamins Complete Extra C With Iron
    Vitamins, Target Brand Children’s Vitamins

    Water, Dasani Naturally flavored
    Water, Naturally Flavored Northwest brand
    Water, Protein K2O by Kellogg’s
    Water, Sparkling, Cascade Ice
    Water, Stewart’s Sparkling Diet (Black Raspberry, Orchard Peach, Ruby Red, Vanilla Cream, Wild Cherry)
    Water, Sparkling, Sugar Free (Black Cherry, Key Lime, Kiwi Strawberry, Peach, Tangerine-Lime, Tropical White Grape)
    Weight Perfect High Soy Chocolate Strawberry Vanilla
    W X

    Xenadrine (diet pills)
    Y Z

    Yogurt, Dannon Light ‘n Fit
    Yogurt, low-carb or low sugar

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Yes, actually! I know of many people who are experiencing the SAME symptoms from sugar-free and diet foods (as listed in that atrocious list of crap food you just provided) as they do from Visalus. I would never eat a single one of the products you listed. Period. Ever.

    • Marion says:

      It seems to me that you all need to be petitioning your Government’s Health representatives about the high sugar and sweetener content of food. We are being bombarded with processed food that contains all manner of nasty ingredients and dubious manufacturing processes. Sucralose, although not something I would choose, is made from Wheat… a Japanese invention and it seems to me that for all the sweetness that is demanded, Sucralose is the least troublesome.and is affordable. Stevia, on the other hand, is preferable but costs too much to process. It seems we’re between a rock and a hard place but the small amount of sucralose in Visalus Shakes (which many of you seem to take delight in vehemently critisizing,) seems to cause absolutely no harm whatsoever and you have only to check on YouTube the many unsolicited testimonials from people who have had fantastic relief and cures for all manner of medical issues.

      Both in the U.S and here in the UK, where Vi has only been available since mid-April, virtually everybody now involved as a customer or promoter (over 50,000) knows somebody now medication free, or experiencing relief, as a result of taking Vi Shakes daily. Just some of the magical stories involve Crohn’s Disease, Fibromyalgia, M.E.(Chronic Fatigue Syndrome,) Arthritis, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Diabetes 1 and 2, Kidney Disease, Cholesterol, High Blood Pressure, Psoriasis, and many others that I can’t remember off the top of my head. Those who have experienced being free of medication are not in the least worried about a little sucralose. Not only that, they have got to or maintained their desired weight and have built lean muscle.

      Personally, blood pressure is now normal, I’ve lost weight, the signs of Diabetes are no longer apparent, pains in knees and an aging hip repair are non-existent. My paternal cousin was taking 18 pills a day for all manner of problems, including some mentioned above and is now down to 3 pills. A maternal cousin suffered from Rheumatoid Arthritis and is now free of it, except for the odd twinge when her demanding work as a renowned photographer and the international travel involved, warns her to slow down.

      Although not sold as a medical product but for weight loss and good health, there is a 90 Day money back unconditional guarantee. Vi Shakes are NOT genetically modified, contain no aspartame, gluten or lactose and are Kosher. How many products can you name that match that?

      We don’t now live in a world where organic food is the norm (we grow our own) and I believe that anything Monsanto has a hand in should be avoided. Difficult in the US where the ground is poisoned and seeds are GM. so stop worrying about a little sucralose. You have much more to be concerned about.

  84. www.youtube.com says:

    No matter what, don’t let anything stop you from your exercises
    and routines every single day. A well cleansed and detoxified body
    will lose weight at its peak, particularly when you’re a vegetarian.
    However, the cost is a small price for improving your health and overall feelings
    about yourself.

  85. laurenbassartfit says:

    I’m not sure where you looked for an ingredient list on the ViSalus website, but it took me about 30 seconds to find it. I went to Their website, clicked on shake, and clicked on ingredients…. http://visalus.com/pdf/products/vishape/vishape_ingredients.jpg
    If you are trying to do good and help people I appreciate that, but don’t use your influence to lie to people either just to try to prove your point. Regarding the idea that the only people that benefit from ViSalus are fat people that eat garbage every day (way to grossly generalize without researching) I can tell you that my wife and I both ate “clean” for 90 days straight in addition to calorie counting and lost a trivial amount of weight. Then we switched to this system and we’ve lost a combination for 30 pounds in about 40 days. Additionally, ViSalus has an entire program and challenge kit dedicated to those using it as a nutritional supplement no to lose weight, but to gain muscle mass. People that already are eating healthy, not junk food eaters.
    Regarding your point on Sucralose, the decision to use that as a sweetener has to do with the fact that one of the top 3 side effects of obesity is diabetes… Think about that.. what are you supposed to do feed a bunch of Type Two Diabetics sugar?? While I agree that ultimately the best answer is to eliminate sugar all together, you have to find something that is palatable for people to consume or they will just ignore it for something significantly unhealthier. To your own point, you shouldn’t change everything at once, so let people consume something mildly sweet while they are trying to lose weight.
    Regarding your evidence that it’s unhealthy because your “friends took it” and felt bad? That’s hardly empirical and includes zero hard data about anything. One again an inflammatory comment based on nothing.
    If you want to set out and do something good for your readers that’s fine, but don’t make up garbage just to get blog clicks.

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Thanks for your comment. When I wrote this article, Visalus had a different website and I assure you, the ingredients were not there.

      To address your other accusations, I really don’t benefit in ANY way from the “blog clicks”. And if it’s such “garbage”, surely people will see through it and you should have nothing to worry about!

      I also don’t know any of the people who provided their testimonies so no, they are not my “friends”.

      Thanks again for stopping by!

      • Marion says:

        Sucralose is made from wheat for humans not mice. A chat page is no place to be sorting out personal health. For those people who think Vi Shakes may have caused an adverse reaction, I recommend you write to Dr Michael Seidman at Visalus Inc. He was one of the formulators of Vi Shakes, is a top surgeon and nutritionist (studied nutrition for 15 years) who advises US Government, medical Publications and journals,, and various medical bodies and institutions. Anybody with questions about anything should direct them to the most highly qualified people in their field, not an internet blog page. That’s just plain silly..Everone is looking for an easy way to get nutrients and vitamins. as well as losing weight. The answer is to eat naturally. Learn to cook interesting and tasty organic meals. The lazy way will never bring perfect results but, sadly, we like lazy. You have a money back guarantee. Meanwhile, the rest of us take the product and have enormous benefits. .500,000,000 Vi shakes served last year. They don’t appear to have filled the hospitals..

        • coachryanfitness says:

          Well it’s either listen to an organization whose business is to research and review the safety of chemicals with no vested interests in any of the products or listen to a scientist who is getting paid by the company he is formulating products for. Here is a great video breaking down about all natural and artificial sweetners and how artificial sweetners are processed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQarsq-1ykE&feature=youtube_gdata_player You will see that all of Visalus future products will not contain sucralose. Sucralose is banned in most other countries for a reason : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQarsq-1ykE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

          • Marion says:

            Dr Seidman formulated the Vi product long before it was bought by Visalus and renamed. Perhaps you should research before commenting negatively.

          • fitryan says:

            It doesn’t matter if he developed it before or during… He currently has financial ties with Visalus. Independent, no financial ties, and a consumer advocate scientists are who I lean towards listening to. Like I said, you will no longer see sucralose used in future Visalus products and I wouldn’t be surprised if they took it out of the current shakes. The current studies refute the validity of sucralose. There’s a reason sucralose is banned in other countries on top of other artificial sweetners.

            The research on sucralose today is much more in depth. Nothing good comes from altering nature. It’s called “denaturing”, and your body reacts to what it doesn’t understand by going through “leukocytosis”.

          • fitryan says:

            Food for thought : you think the scientists working in research development for cigarette companies think the chemicals they put in tobacco are safe? Of course they don’t, but the salary is sure sweet though.

    • Marion says:

      Fluoride is toxic waste…… what are you drinking and cooking with? Might be a factor in your unwellness. To be honest, I am of the opinion that not everything is compatible with or suitable for everybody. I don’t know of anybody who has had a bad reaction to Vi Shakes.. However, what really pees me off is people who take it upon themselves to bad mouth any product and assume that people who have committed to lose weight, or take a health supplement, are not wise enough to do their own research. Good luck and if you are continuing to have problems, take the Vi Pack to an independent nutritionist.

      I just saw a poisonous remark somewhere on this page about Dr Siedman formulating the product for HIS company. He formulated it long before Visalus bought it and he is not a Visalus employee. He is a surgeon, specialising in ENT,, an advisor to many health institutes and clinics , includinng FDA (and boy do they need advice) He also studied nutrition for 15 years AND he is in the top 1% of American consultants. I therefore commend anyone to stop trying to sort out health problems on-line with people you don’t know and who have not even carried out tests on your blood.let alone committed so much of their life to natural health. All it achieves is reactions and disturbing peoples peace of mind – not good because wellness starts in the mind with a decision.

  86. Cynthia says:

    I have been promoting and drinking the vishakes…sometimes 2x a day for almost a year now and in the first few months did great. I dropped back down to the weight I was when I met my husband (35lbs). But lately I have been feeling wretched!! I thought maybe I was just having thyroid issues…which is possible…but it seemed to hit me pretty hard about a month ago. I have been exhausted, my hair has been falling out for months and I am now feeling very self-conscious of it. I also have a hard time remembering things and focusing and I have serious mood swings, anger, and anxiety. My leg muscles ache and I keep getting vericose veins and my limbs go numb if I am not moving constantly. I carry a stinking laundry basket up two flights of stairs and my muscles are weak and shaky for almost an hour afterward. For about 6 months now I have not lost any weight… I just kind of fluctuate by about 5lbs. I naively had not considered that the shakes could have been the issue until about yesterday really. I hate that feeling when you realize you messed up and I am currently feeling that way. I have struggled with weight and food almost my entire life and i was doing so well and feeling better I am terrified that I will struggle again. Honestly I am kind of freaking out….what do I tell all the people that are drinking the shakes because I was seeing such great results and told my friends??

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Wow, I’m so sorry to hear this but glad you saw the connection. Don’t be afraid of leaving the shakes behind though! If you enjoy using meal replacement shakes as part of your routine, just find another product without the questionable ingredients. I would also recommend getting a thorough checkup with your doctor (including bloodwork) to make sure you aren’t suffering from a vital nutrient deficiency or other malnourishment issue.

    • Ali says:

      Hi Cynthia, I am very sorry to hear this! I have been looking for a shake to help me with weight loss. I considered Vishakes and now I am sure I will NOT try it! Thank you so much for sharing this. I am going to try Sun Warrior Protein shakes. They have no artificial sweetners, or artificial preservatives. It is GMO free Gluten free, Dairy free, Soy free among other things. I realize the vishakes are considered a meal replacement however the Sun Warrior is not. You do need to eat your fruits and vegatables, whatever whole foods you can to get all of the nutrients you need. I totally agree with Natasha, you definitely need to see your doctor. I truly wish you all the best!!!

    • Ms Private Name says:

      There are so many intelligent, informed people on this blog post. First, please allow me to compliment all of you for being here and especially Natasha for continuing with all these comments and please except my apology now for typos, wrong word used, and all the things that are annoying when reading these comments with complete passion. I honestly want to tell all of you so much but I just can’t give too many specific details. I am a Visalus promoter, drinker, and challenge taker. I initially started out losing massive weight. However, I quietly noticed my carb cravings increase. I’m one of those that keeps a food diary, with how I feel, what I ate, and what is going on. It started at a young age that I wanted to be my personal health study. I can tell you this with certainty: Cravings are not a good sign. When we eat whole foods, in correct proportions, our bodies work wonderfully with minimal cravings, healthy weight is effortless, and we crave fruits and veggies instead of deadly foods.

      Unfortunately, I can’t tell you my education for fear of being recognized. Let’s just say I have 7 years of college, a science degree, many certifications, and I never stop learning by teaching myself with college textbooks and the Eastern Medicine books to contradict it. Plus additional whole nutrition education that completely contradicted the 4 years of things like the American Food Guide Pyramid and everything I was taught the first part of my education. I did find it much easier to learn whole food thinking because I was taught RDA (Recommended Daily Allowance), special diets, eating disorders, how to identify scurvy, etc, etc so I could pit the different bits of information against each other; thereby, assisting me in a complete picture of how different areas of the world farms, shops, eats, and manages their health (yeah, not proper tense…sorry about that.). With that substantial “American Nutritional Wisdom” it was easy to learn more because I could identify that milk (professed as an almost perfect food, yes, the low fat version) was actually quite the opposite. So, I could literally go down a list and l saw how the major food groups were absolutely lobbied for and were more about the farming lobby than getting 2-3 glasses a day being so good for me. I know I’m rambling but my point is that I’m not uneducated when it comes to food, nutrition, chemistry, anatomy, physiology, biology, and kinesiology.

      Needless to say many come to me for nutrition information including my feelings about ViShakes. We can argue about cost but you can get three for free which means you only pay shipping. We can argue it’s an MLM….but these points are so irrelevant. Cost, how it’s sold, who’s making money from it, how many customers or promoters any of us have, if someone else is here promoting something else, and anyone’s results, other than our own, is irrelevant when we are honestly here to find out if this is for us or if we are feeling ill effects.

      Now, what I’ve gathered from this arena is that in most cases we are all somewhat logical. I can logically say that the first four to five months the shakes worked great, I was excited, and I really had hope. This can also be called the placebo effect. This is not meant as a dig against anyone or anything. It’s simply a fact. A self fulfilling prophecy. I think it’s going to work so it does. There are numerous studies that the placebo has better results than the studied medication. Our minds are powerful…..they are, promise. Now, I’ve been at Vi events and I’ve seen all the people that have stood up because they are in the 100 plus pound group. They have lost over 100 pounds; heck, there are some over 200 pounds. They say there is no surgery. I believe them with some reservation but some I know personally and they are telling the truth….but see here I go speaking of others and not my PERSONAL experience, concerns, hopes, and questions. Wait, one more thing: Visalus has kits so it’s not the shake that is weight loss, it’s how it’s used in conjunction with some of their other products.

      Now, I must add this before I state my issues with the Vishakes. The company, the people, the leaders, the events, the websites, the pay program, and all of the sales part of it is really outstanding. Plus, in my heart I do believe that the three creators would improve or change this product if enough people gave constructive criticism. I just wish there was a safe way to voice concerns without being told it’s “Noise” or that it’s GRS: generally recognized as safe. I honestly want a whole food product, I can earn for free, that my entire family can take, I can make money from, and live a longer better life. I know it’s a tall order but I know it’s possible. I cook, garden, shop farmers markets, raise chickens, and compost so when I can have some easy shakes meal replacements then it helps me have an even better dinner. It’s the simple fact of time….I have more time to complete my other life responsibilities and I don’t skip meals.

      Looking back I really dragged this one out. But, I’m now to the part that I’m convinced is a side effect of my never missing a day of my vishake for the last two years. Many days I have more than one. My significant other also drinks his……we are now sharing very similar ailments that are so bad because they have lingered for the last six months. These may or may not be from Visalus. The only thing we’ve really done differently is our vishakes that we never miss so here it is:
      We have had severe sugar cravings, numb fingers and toes, extremely aching joints, swollen fingers, swollen hands, carpal tunnel, inflammation, tooth and gum issues, thinness to hair and I know there are some other weird things. It’s weird because we are both getting things that are so similar that we have to look at everything we are both doing or taking in. Our issues are to similar. The only thing we’ve added to our diets is Vishakes otherwise it’s really the most perfect, organic, healthy food choices. What we intend on doing is blood work now, while still on our vishakes. Then stop with Vishakes for a month or two then get retested with a food diary.

      I would like to hear from those that have had similar issues or concerns. This seems like a good place to start. Isn’t it possible that we want Vi to be better and all companies better? I know I do. You see I really like Visalus but I can’t ignore that something is making us not feel well. It would be irresponsible of me to just ignore it anymore. Now, it may not be Visalus… I just want a good quality of life and the truth. We have some other issues but I don’t want to say until I see it more. Thank you for your time.

      • Natasha (Domestica) says:

        Thanks for sharing your personal experience. I totally agree with you that the WAY Visalus sells isn’t the issue. It’s 100% the ingredients. Unfortunately, the price would have to increase if they improved the ingredients and perhaps that is what’s holding them back (the whole “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” thing). But it is broken…because so many people like you are having negative side effects. The symptoms you’ve mentioned are mostly inflammation-related — and our bodies experience inflammation at the cellular level when we are exposed to certain processed or artificial ingredients (as I’m sure you already know). Inflammation is a precursor to cancer and of course, arthritis (or carpal tunnel would be in that category, as well).

        I can’t wait to hear what your bloodwork reveals and how you feel once you go off Vi completely!

        • Marion says:

          Only a few people get to comment on this page…….. 1.5 million started Vi in 2012 ……. What percentage of that figure represents your “so many people with problems” ?

          • Ms Private Name says:

            Hi Marion,
            Thank you for taking the time to read my post and responding to Natasha. This interaction is critical for ideas to evolve. With that in mind, I have to add to your post in order to “keep it real”. Please know that I know quite a bit about Visalus. I understand that Natasha stated “… so many people with problems…” and you are not appreciating her generalization. In response, you have stated 1.5 million started Vi in 2012. When I see these figures I’m assuming Visalus is using their orders made by distributors, customers and the free products being earned? Even if it’s not all three and it’s just one of these there is a fact that needs to be addressed. When you have three for free and people have two customers there are customers created, like someone’s cat, to be the third customer to earn the free product. These created customers and created distributors in order to earn rank and earn free product are in all of these numbers. It’s not bad or good and I believe Visalus limited 5 customers to one household address in order to limit this type of ordering but making these claims is also generalization. Marion, I know you have the best intentions because I’ve read many of your posts. I think if you really think about what I’m saying you will see the similarities.

            Now, I think these types of conversations are best when we speak from our own personal experience and when we are very specific. From what I have seen of this blog it’s very fair. We know Natasha has personal preferences and we all do. In all honesty, Visalus isn’t going to lose or gain any substantial business from these posts. Plus, Visalus has other products I find amazing. Are these other products never addressed because they are superior ingredients? The Go-Shots are super, we love the Vi-Pak, Vi-Defy, the cookies, and all the other stuff. However, these items are just minor because most aren’t replacing a meal with them. I don’t want to be replacing real food with something that is just steps above junk food with three types of protein. Maybe most of their money has gone into how they process the protein which I understand to be costly but good for people. Plus, there are studies that show the Vi-Shakes help maintain muscle mass while losing weight. I just want something better than GRS: Generally Recognized as Safe. I wish I knew if Visalus for good for 4 months but not long time use. When they say Sucralose is in such a small amount, they are saying one bag of 30 servings has one packet of artificial sweetener. So in two scoops of shake mix there is 1/30 of a tiny packet of sweetener. Now, Sucralose may be somewhat safe but what about the synergistic effect of it mixed with other things in the shake that are also irritants to the body. I honestly don’t know. I’m just typing my thoughts. I would love to hear from all sides that have been faithfully taking the shakes long term.

            I can say with absolute certainty that the first year I felt great. The shakes have been great short term for both of us. Plus, I would pay more for the shake mix for higher quality ingredients. I love how it tastes, I love how easy it is to make, and I love the texture. It’s possible our symptoms are from something else, too. In addition, I do believe it will continuously be improved upon if enough people voice their concerns in a positive way.

            On the flip side, inflammation is my worst enemy. I am inflamed, I hurt more than ever, and tingling body parts have forced me to really examine everything. When I came across this blog and saw another person had my same complaints I had to write and get involved in this conversation.

            I’m really looking for open dialogue, honesty, and I have the best intentions. I give this stuff to my children. Wouldn’t I be an awful parent to just believe every study, everything the doctors & scientists claim from Visalus and all the personal endorsements by Visalus Customers & Distributors when my body is responding in an undesirable way? Next, being told by Visalus promoters that people who question the products are “noise”, are looking for excuses to stay “out of shape” or aren’t ready to lose their fat, is also concerning. I’ve been at events and when they discuss the ingredients it does feel a little hyped up and I find that no one wants to really dig deep by asking the tough questions. Plus, if anyone on here is convinced Visalus is absolute health perfection would they really get so upset by others asking tough questions? It’s a fact that if a company has enough money they can buy studies (I am NOT saying Visalus has or is doing this. Visalus is a very ethical organization and I’m not grouping them with big pharma). What I am saying is I saw, executive buying research studies, with my own eyes on an undercover investigation on 60 minutes. Drug companies go to these companies and buy poor study participants to get specific results. Plus, every week there are new studies to de-bunk the old ones. Therefore, I don’t put a ton of weight on one study about something being safe. I’m still terribly confused if coffee is good for me, bad for me, or if I should be drinking at least 4 cups a day. In closing, my best health thermometer is how I sleep, my body functions, how I feel, my energy level, and so on. I’m constantly seeking out better products, I listen to my body as a guide, and I keep up on current health information. If only that was enough to guarantee I was buying the best stuff for my family but unfortunately it’s really not enough. Having forums like this is great so I hope I hear from other long term users.

    • Marion Aitken says:

      Don’t be alarmed by the soy ingredient. It has been triple refined (TriSorb Protein) to remove negative aspects and to make it readily and harmlessly digestible even for those suffering from kidney problems. It is also suitable for young chldren but certain laws prevent that going on the packet. You will learn a great deal more by attending a challenge meeting rather than making up your mind and criticising something you don’t know enough about.

  87. Ayria Le Cat says:

    I was going to call bs after seeing Sunflower Oil as a culprit, because the vegetable oil argument. (Do you feel the same way about Olive Oils? is what was coming to mind). However, after getting past that one particular part, you’ve thoroughly convinced me on the subject – AND even though I think I’m 110% better than what I used to be in terms of choosing healthy foods, I see that I can learn so much more. It’s so sad…when I go for a “health food” product, I expect nature & science to be perfected. What I DON’T expect….is to become some company’s health experiment.

    I wish there were true whole foods readily available, without taking me out of house and home – unfortunately it’s not the world we live in. And, as with many many things in life – we have to become our own advocate. Thanks for rekindling the spark to be more vigilant in choosing healthy options and doing my research. 🙂

    • fitryan says:

      Well actually, Ayria, when it comes to finding whole foods walking distance from your home it is easy to get, but unfortunately it’s not easy to do this in the US. I’ve lived over seas in Malaysia, Holland, and Ecuador and had no problem walking 10 minutes away to find farmer markets where I can buy fresh fruits and vegetables for cheaper than fast food restaurants. I was shocked to find cheap fresh fruit juices at all the restaurants I went to in Malaysia and I only paid 50 cents per cup.

      The US is certainly doing something wrong when it comes to cheap and accessible organic fruits and vegetables.

      • Natasha (Domestica) says:

        I agree. The US is so full of processed food, it’s daunting for most people. I would never buy organic food at a conventional supermarket (i.e. Safeway) because they’re overpriced and usually of poor quality. But we have a number of farmers markets here in California so I’m quite lucky.

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      Thanks for the comment, Ayria. Vegetable oils are not nearly as healthy as olive oils because olives give us an incredibly balanced ratio of healthy omega fats (and a large reason why researchers believe the fatty Mediterranean diet is so heart-healthy). Sunflowers have an extremely high ratio of omega-6 fats, the least healthy of all the omega fats. When out of balance like that, the omega-6 fats can do more harm than good.

      The only argument I may have over olive oil is that you should never COOK with it — because heating the omega-6 fats makes them even more harmful. For cooking, I use tropical oils (like coconut) as they have the highest resistance to heat.

  88. fitryan says:
  89. Anonymus says:

    I am interested to know what credentials you have to analyze products such as Vislus? In addition, I find it more than a bit concerning that you list sucralose as Visalus’ poison of choice and state you would never put it in your body and then you state further within the blog that you in fact chose a shake that contained 3 mg of sucralose rather than 100 mg and that is why you chose it. I’m a bit confused as to where you really stand on the subject with that statement. Further, you state you wouldn’t put crap products into your body but when a blogger asked you to state your daily diet and workout routine, you responded you would need to get back to her. I ask myself, wouldn’t someone who truly lives the lifestyle they state be able to tell you what they normally have for daily meals and their exercise routine without great thought? Further, to date, I don’t see that you have ever responded to that particular question. I am neither advocate or enemy but I do know that no product is ever perfect nor a cure all end all for diseases or conditions and what might work for one doesn’t for another but to blame shakes for certain conditions is a bit nuts. People are not drinking shakes for every meal so I would need to know what foods they are consuming to complete the rest of their daily diet. Are they still consuming diet soda and eating boxed meals or taking a quick drive through a greasy drive through window? Are they smokers? There are so many unknown variables that to assume that simply the shakes are the culprit seems a bit absurd to me.

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      I have never taken a shake with artificial sweeteners EVER — so not sure where you’re getting your information. Links please!

      To answer your question, I eat a Paleo-type diet; grain-free, dairy-free, sugar-free. I drink black coffee, may have sugar on occasion and alcohol from time to time (wine or scotch). I eat raw and organic nuts/seeds, organic grass-fed meats, organic free-range pastured poultry and eggs, organic fruits and vegetables from my local CSA and/or Farmer’s Market, local raw/organic honey, and fresh green juices. I make my own almond milk, my own probiotic-rich yogurt, and my own grain-free granola. I consume only food-based supplements (not the cheaper synthetic versions) like Vitamin C, milk thistle (for liver support), and turmeric.

      I have coached more than a hundred women from all over the world for FREE, putting up my own money for purchasing and shipping weekly motivation prizes. I have a Nutrition Coach designation from the renowned Dr. Berardi at Precision Nutrition.

      As I’ve stated MANY times on this blog, I do kettlebell training 1-3 times a week and a mixture of plyometrics and weightlifting 1-2 times a week. I can swing a 100-lb kettlebell and snatch 55 lbs. I do unassisted chin-ups, pull-ups, and sets of flawless form 40 military-style push-ups. And I used to be over 200 pounds.

      Is that enough for ya?!

    • Jeannette says:

      You do eat snacks, like apples, cottage cheese with fruit, turkey slices, celery & Pb, etc Healthy snacks. And, you eat sensible, either lunch or dinner. This product does work.

  90. Amorey says:

    I found your post after I went searching for the cause of my nasty headache that will not quit! I have never been interested in this stuff before, and have actually been known to refer to the BBVi sales people as a “cult”. But someone gave some to my hubby, and I thought I’d try it out. I blended mixed berries, a splash of orange juice, 1/2 cup plain Greek yogurt, and 2 scoops of the “birthday cake” death powder with some ice. Drank it for breakfast. By the time I was finished with the drink, the headache was setting in. I’ve drank my weight in water, even taken Tylenol and Ibuprofen. Nothing touches this headache. Omg, I think I’m dying. Thanks for the info!

  91. Jeannette says:

    I started Visalus late August 2013 and I feel amazing. I suffer from Fibromyalgia and no longer feel like I have Fibro. I WAS eating properly but still felt horrible. I was also taking 35 meds/supplements a day, injections 3 times a week and wearing a Nitroglycerine patch and still was not able to function. In 5 days I felt a difference, 3 weeks I had so much more energy, 6 weeks started going to the gym again on a trial, 2 months riding 10 miles on the bikes, lifting weights and NO PAIN AND at the end of my 90 days I had lost 17 lbs and went from a size 12 to a 4. This product is amazing and there are a lot of negative people out there for everything, even if the product is good. Visalus has Stevia and evaporated cane sugar. IF, it had aspartame, I would not be able to take it because I also HAD Aspartame poisoning. Oh, did I mention I HAD heavy metal poisoning too. Visalus, GAVE ME MY LIFE BACK!!

  92. Gary haase says:

    Two things I’ve observed about this blog:

    The leader is VERY bullyish (is that a word;). Her postings make her appear extremely frustrated. She talks somewhere about her bikini body which is great but acting the way she does is highly unattractive.
    The second thing was, absolutely no one changed their habits based on what any one else here said…so what’s the use?

    So…that being said, here’s my .02 on Visalus.
    It tastes GREAT unlike the alternatives mentioned here and I’ve tried most.
    I’ve lost 56 pounds.
    The ingredients are tons better than what I used to put into my body.

    Two down sides…it’s a little expensive and I hate MLM programs. I just buy mine cheaply on eBay.

    • Natasha (Domestica) says:

      I would say “opinionated” more than bullyish but each to his own! 🙂

      My intention is to help people stop unwittingly poisoning themselves by believing the well-marketed hype of a poor product. If Visalus ever changes their ingredients to be organic, non-toxic, completely natural, rid of cheap vegetable oils, and soy-free, let me know and I’ll change my post!

      That said, I will say your second point is incorrect. I’ve had dozens, possibly hundreds, of people contact me to say they have changed their Visalus habits after reading this blog and many of them have sworn that their random symptoms have stopped once they cut Visalus out of their diet.

      • Gary haase says:

        You come across as rude or bossy like a know it all…not opinionated. It turns people off and defeats what appears to be your primary goal of educating people. It’s hard to get beyond your apparent disrespectful manner. You’re preaching to the choir I’m sure isn’t your ultimate goal or purpose.

        You mention “random symptoms”. What is in Visalus, that is not in the normal bad fast food and TV dinner diets? It must be something different to cause new “random symptoms”.

        I’ve been drinking a couple shakes a day since last March and am down nearly 60lbs and feel amazing but the kicker is I Love the flavor. I’d drink them even if I was skinny lol. I used to drink many 31 Flavors malts but I like these more.

        So…I guess my point is: what is better for me, 31 flavors malts or Visalus shakes? Should I quit doing what’s working for me, and risk going back to my old ways, because of your criticisms? If I listened to you and failed in its implementation then fell back and got very sick again, would you take care of my family? Uhmmm…no!

        My suggestion for you would be: don’t knock the nutritional side of someone else’s choices if its an improvement over what they used to do. Instead, in a respectful way, teach people how they can improve their already improved diet. These shakes only account for two meals a day. That gives you an opportunity to educate on what would be best in filling out the rest of the diet.

        • Marion says:

          Gary, I used to hate MLM programs but they are not pyramid selling. Anyone who works for someone else is in an MLM situation. Work out how many levels there are in a normal company, each getting paid for their contributions with the people higher up supporting them and getting a higher salary, That is how Visalus operates. The only difference is that they now create at least 4 new millionaires each month and that allows those people to create employment for more people. With Vi, the top three guys are interactive and spend time on both sides of the pond. They are now in Germany with five more countries starting in less than two years. The mission to tackle world obesity is working very nicely.. Try as they might, sites like this will have little impact. The supporters of this site would do better to gang up and get everyone they know to join the fight against Monsanto and Bayer who think it’s perfectly OK to kill off the bees. If that happens, everyone would be delighted to have a Visalus shake. It won’t suit everyone but it has been responsible in the UK for an elderly man being taken off the mental health register with dementia. He’s doing The Times crossword in minutes and Sudoku. I personally know people with amazing cures for many nasty medical conditions not related to weight. Breathing in chemtrail aluminum and barium is what most should be concerned with. It even poisons our organic food that we grow, the manure that feeds the soil, etc., is full of antibiotics so Vi wins. At least there are lots of nutrients and as they say, trace elements of other things may be present. They are present all around us and hey! It has now been realized by universities, labs and medical establishments around the globe that corn syrup does not cause harm. Good for Coca Coa, I guess. All new Vi stuff has stevia. Keep taking it Gary. If it keeps the weight down, if keeps you free from so many other conditions. Good luck, my friend, from one of those awful MLM’ers who is helping others to lose weight and supporting them through their transormation.

        • Diane says:

          Hey Gary, apparently you don’t respect the body that has been loaned to you. You’re supposed to eat food not drink garbage shakes. Can’t you control what you stick in your mouth? You’re body isn’t designed just for liquid for nourishment. You are slowly killing your body. Your nutritional choices are ridiculous and you have NO idea the damage you are doing to it.

          • Marion says:

            It seems this site has worn itself out. It’s now more like a [profanity edited by Natasha] teenager’s Facebook page that would be classed as bullying were the comments not made by adults. Diane, if you cannot comment with respect for other peoples’ views and preferences, you should keep your opinions to yourself. However, if you are a ‘qualified’ nutritionist, chemist, or expert on what the world needs, perhaps you might do better writing a book or starting your own forum. Can’t you control what comes out of your mouth? You have no idea of the damage you are doing to yourself . Feed the mind with pure food and the rest will follow. I don’t like the company here and shall not be returning in the near future.

  93. Natasha (Domestica) says:

    Please keep in mind everyone that there is no name-calling or profanities allowed on my blog. I will remove comments and block repeat offenders — no matter which side of the argument they are on!

    Gary, I get where you’re coming from about my tone in this article. To be honest, I wrote this in all of ten minutes and I never in a million years thought it would generate so much traffic or interest. I still feel passionately about Visalus not being a healthy option but I agree that it could have been written in a more encouraging way. To be clear, I did write a follow-up article where I encourage people to transition from a shake diet to a diet of whole foods, saying:

    “If using a shake product is going to help you regulate calories and maintain/lose weight, you do what you gotta do. But the end goal should always be to one day stop using shake supplements and transition to a normal diet of real food. Shakes are a crutch and although we all need a crutch sometimes, it’s not healthy to rely on them forever.”

    You can read that entire article (and Visalus reader testimonials) here: https://fabulouslydomestic.com/2013/09/01/reader-testimonials-the-side-effects-of-cheap-supplements-like-visalus-body-by-vi/

    • Gary haase says:

      That’s better Natasia but you removed what I wrote that you were replying to here.

      The objectionable part was in reply to the lady who attacked me telling me I don’t respect my body and I was killing myself. That was both shortsighted and presumptuous.
      That exaggeration was offensive especially given the context of what I wrote and, you removed. Why wouldn’t you remove that attack on me? Just because she agreed with you?

      So back to my point. Visalus may have saved my life. It’s been something that I could stick to (10 months now), it’s worked (I’ve lost nearly 60lbs), and I love the flavor. I would drink it as a treat if I was skinny.
      For anybody who had my fast food diet this is a major step up and the results are indisputable. Is it a perfect plan? Well…no. Are there other plans that are better? For sure. Would I be successful with another plan guaranteed? Probably not due to logistics, enjoyment, expense, and my own unique characteristics.
      Its kinda like:
      A) I used to drive a Pinto (fast food diet)
      B) Then I bought a Cadillac (Visalus diet)
      C) You weren’t pleased cause you wanted me to drive a Ferrari (your perfect diet)
      Well, I’m happy with my Caddy but if I ever get dissatisfied it’s good to know there’s other options out there.

    • Marion says:

      Why create a memory of something that does not exist? That’s called an overactive imagination or wandering mind. Perhaps you need a life rather than use this forum to get attention at any cost.. Everyone speaks strongly about the things they believe in, some are misinformed, but I’ve never seen outright lies here.,

  94. Andi says:

    In trying to help a friend out, I just bought thise crap, my fault for not doing research. Wanted to help her in her business, and it seemed pretty healthy, but the MORE I research this company, the faster it makes me want to CANCEL!!! And I will be doing that RIGHT NOW!! Thanks for this most awesome blog and info!!

    • Marion says:

      Can you kindly tell me what research you are doing and where you are getting your information? Vi has been passed by the National Institute of Clinical Excellence in the UK… unlike the US FDA, this institute carries out rigorous tests over a long period. It has never ever passed something later found to be harmful. I therefore cannot help thinking that you are reading disguised blogs from competitors and/or those who have failed in their health and weight loss endeavors as well as their business. These people are always looking to put the blame on something other than themselves. Not that these little people will have any affect on Vi which is now in Germany and moving to all the European countries, each with their own high standards of scientific testing. None of the negative bloggers on this site display formal qualifications that make their criticism even slightly relevant. Vi is a done deal and curing people of more diseases and health problems than any current or previous brand. It has also been scientifically proven to be healthier with less of the bad stuff and higher content of the good ingredients than all the other brands, even those costing twice as much. Lets see some feedback from a qualified nutritionist who states his training and years of practice. Again, in the UK, many nutritionists and health practitioners are recommending or promoting Vi, the same in Germany. Please, no more whingeing until you can back up your criticisms with facts. Personal opinions don’t count. Scientific facts from several research scientists in the field of nutrition do. Hugely morbdly obese people are losing 100, 200, 300 AND 400 lbs. Diabetes sufferers are being told by doctors to stop taking medication. Rhonda Lucero suffered horribly from Fibromyalgia until she was introduced to Vi. One of your TV ladies, Ruby Gettinger, is losing all her weight with Vi. Famous Footballers and other well known sportsmen have had their trainers and nutritionists recommending they change to Vi. The list goes on. So, I ask you in closing, do you trust your food suppliers to keep you healthy? They won’t because they are controlled by a much larger and invisible force, slaves of banks, who call the shots. We are not relevant to them and have to do the best we can for ourselves. With Ryan, Nick and Blake at the helm, we won’t come to much harm. The several thousand who will attend the official UK launch on Saturday (Feb 8th) will agree.

      • mtblantonjr says:

        Only reason some of the Vi people are coming over is due to a “ground floor” “right time right place” money making aspect…. Some of them don’t give a crap about anything but the money. It’s unfortunate but true. Those of us that truly want to help people are still with Vi…. Also explains why Diane is so opinionated about Vi… Just another competitor trying to bash us to get a leg up. This explains a lot.

        • Diane says:

          Well MTBlantonJr., Do your research on the dangers of your product, that’s why X people of Vi are coming over, they are customers NOT people with huge downlines.

  95. Anonymous says:

    I don’t really care what any of you have to say about vi. Whether it’s good or bad, If you’re not a certified nutritionist, then you all can just shut it. Take the bag of vi to a nutritionist and see what they tell you if it’s good or bad. Hear about people having success stories or not. From what I heard about vi, it’s about changing your lifestyle. Meaning it shouldn’t be a miracle pill that should make you lose weight but to help you do it. So of course you’re going to gain weight if your eating habits are crappy. Open your eyes everyone. Look around you. All of us make poor choices in food. Everyone investigates products like these yet they don’t investigate what other foods they consume.They try to look for the bad inside the good. Before bashing a company that has at least a motive to help people at least change your lifestyle, look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself what did it take you to go where you are now. Boxed food? Fast food? It’s no wonder why America is the #1 place with obese people. And don’t make me laugh about the FDA. If FDA is so high and mighty, why do people continue to have health complications or issues? Again, poor choices. You are what you eat but if you can’t change your lifestyle of eating crappy, then by all means, continue what you’re doing but do it without bashing other products down that try their best to at least open peoples eyes.

    • Marion says:

      I have never felt so well in my life. I’m almost 76 yrs old and have always eaten fresh food. Fast forward to Body by Vi ….. I needed to lose weight and had two years before it launched in my country. During that time it was shipped to me from the States, I have a shake in the morning, a small snack at lunchtime, a sensible evening meal with a thick fruit shake as dessert. I lose weight at the rate or two or three pounds a week. When people knock the product, because weight fell off them too quickly, I can’t help wondering if there is anything between their ears. You are in complete control. Most of us have little self control when it comes to dieting sensibly by reducing food intake so something like Vi, that is a tool to help control eating and, furthermore, is a very effective health supplement, is an excellent support and prop. It’s easy for people who are naturally slim to knock what others need to do but really it’s totally irrelevant. Each of us is able to tolerate different foods. I have no reactions to anything that I’m aware of. However, Vi is gluten and lactose free and contains no aspartame. The soy and whey has been triple refined to make it easily digestible and reduce the amount needed for building lean muscle.

      People keep prattling on about other makes but there is a comparison chart wtth all the major U.S. diets and Vi came out on top with more of the good stuff and less of the bad than any of the others. I also keep reading references to ‘cheap stuff’. You people who refer to Vi as cheap must be totally unaffected by the economy and I’m glad for you but, for me, Vi is expensive to buy on a pension. However, the physical benefits are worth the effort.

      My cousin is free of rheumatoid arthritis and has lost 65lbs. A friend has lost 115lbs. Her father in his 90s has been taken off the mental health register since she started giving him vi twice a day in hot chocolate. There is a young lady who canceled a kidney removal operation so she could try Vi for a month ….. kidney totally recovered and operation unnecessary. IBS, fibromyalgia, psoriasis, crohn’s disease, diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and so many more, are all well documented with provable results, thanks to Body by Vi..

      We are having aluminum and barium with reported viruses dropped on us from chemtrails, the ground is poisoned with Monsanto chemicals and because the plants are not sprayed they are called organic, our water is contaminated with fluoride toxic waste, people by the million are getting vaccinated with horrendous chemicals, dairy food is contaminated with antibiotics, the sea is producing deformed fish with high levels of radiationand here we are having a debate about an organic health and weight loss product that is actually helping us combat some of these horrors.

      Get a life. Do whatever suits you and nosey people with too much time of their hands, who make negative comments to boost their own importance but who have little knowledge about anything, need to get out more. If you’re fat, you did it! Look at the efforts Ruby Gettinger has made (YouTube) If you are skinny, add Vi to your sensible eating but never eat another burger, food that needs to be advertised on TV, in fact, anything from the huge corporations. 4,000,000 meals have been donated to children in need and they are showing tremendous improvements in school. What are all these overpriced namby pamby diets doing? Nothing apart from remaining high end.and beyond the reach of ordinary grocery allowances.

      Do you all remember the negative people who wrote on this site? No! Neither does anyone else.

    • Marion Aitken says:

      Well said. In spite of all the criticism, from those who are like stick insects, those who are screwed up and negative, those who have had bad choices thrust at them from childhood need incentives. How many critical bloggers have helped millions lose weight, offer financial incentives and have a growing international family with the same aim? Vi’s Project 10… just one of their weight loss incentives, has provided 4.2 million meals to impoverished and undernourished children and families … Lose 10 lbs and 30 meals are donated by Vi. It’s a plan to benefit all layers of society. Apart from that, at 76 I have never felt so well in my life, thanks to my delicious daily Vi shakes with fruit. Get a life sour people. If it does not concern you, shut up. There are now more than enough medical professionals promoting Vi and, as I’ve said before, if the UK’s National Institute of Clinical Excellence (NICE) has given Vi the thumbs up, it’s fine by me.

  96. katie says:

    Thanks for this post. I see the body by vi challenges all over facebook. I’ve even been invited to attend an informational meeting. I knew just by hearing soy isolate it couldn’t be good…now I have information to share with others that think this is a miracle worker. No thank yo!

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